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[phillip1882]

i'm having trouble with the game review. it seems to think i'm the white player.

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[spook]

@phillip1882

Sorry, but I'm not entirely sure to what you are refering to be honest.
Here below I will give you as much information as I can, hoping to answer your question indirectly.

Game reviews always make calculations for both players. Both players are equal for them.
You can see the names of the players above the board:

- on top of the board there are colors that indicate who plays black or white
- next to your name there is a which means that you played black.
- there is a percentage at the right of your name, because you played the last move.
- that percentage shows whether you managed to improve or worsen your situation as compared to the best possible move which was available.
- -0.4% is actually really good, so that's why it's marked with a green background color.

The following information is shown on the board:

- the black stone at L3 is marked, because it is the last move which was played.
- it's white's turn now.
- the intersections which are marked with numbers on the board indicate which moves the bot has evaluated.
- the one in blue is the best move.
- it will give white a win probability of 84.1% (only 19 playouts were calculated though).
- you can increase the number of playouts for this specific position by clicking the "Analyze this" button.
- the other move (the shoulder hit in lower right) is also a very good move, that's why it's marked in green.
- there's only a difference of 0.1% between the 2 proposed moves, so they have about the same value.
- these percentages are from the perspective of white, because it's white's turn.
- however, you can change this in in the "More...">"UI Settings">"Winrate perspective". Opinions differ about this. Some think that it makes more sense to express all winrates from black's perspective.

On the right there is a game tree.

- move 15 is marked in yellow, because that's the move which we are currently looking at.
- underneath the game tree there is a list of "worst moves", to quickly navigate to big winrate drops. (e.g. black G3 turns out to be the worst move of the game, and is worth investigating).

Then there is the winrate chart:

- the Y axis shows the winrate, the X axis shows the move number.
- as you can see, the Y axis is slightly zoomed. If you hover the axis with your mouse, then an unzoom button will show.
- The values on the chart are shown in perspective of black. It does not alternate winrates according to color.
- So, for that reason, the 15.92% is in perspective of black.

I'm sorry for giving you all this information.
I hope this indirectly gives an answer to your question. (which I don't entirely understand)

What I think you may be looking for is this settings screen to alternate the perspective of winrates:

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Please do not hesitate to write me back if I totally misunderstood your question.

[phillip1882]

- the Y axis shows the winrate, the X axis shows the move number.
- as you can see, the Y axis is slightly zoomed. If you hover the axis with your mouse, then an unzoom button will show.
- The values on the chart are shown in perspective of black. It does not alternate winrates according to color.
- So, for that reason, the 15.92% is in perspective of black.

okay. but when i got to the end it said i won.

[Maharani]

I've just renewed my yearly subscription. Up-to-date KataGo nets and a dark mode pretty pweeeease? <3

[slip basic homme]

Hello,
zbaduk is down for me today...
Thanks in advance

[slip basic homme]

Hi, zbaduk is down for me since 6 hours aproxymatly.
"No instances".
Thanks in advance for your help !

[spook]

Yesterday, we had an unexpected issue which took down our services.
While we were updating our software and moving it to the other platform,
I added the long expected KataGo-network-update feature.

(@Maharani)
So, actually, from now on the KataGo network should always be up-to-date.
The network which will be used, will be the latest version available on https://katagotraining.org/

I do appologize for the technical issues which we had yesterday.
In mean time our servers are back up and running again.

I will prolong all premium memberships with 1 week of free access.
(Give me a couple of days to arrange this).

Kind regards

[Maharani]

Thanks, spook <3333

EDIT: Is it gonna be the "latest network" or the "strongest confidently-rated network"?

[spook]

@Maharani,
Right now, it's just the latest.

I use an API to query the list of networks. And I wasn't really sure how to determine which one's the "strongest confidently rated" network.
If I would have to make an educated guess, it would be the latest network with "log_gamma_uncertainty" < 0.05.
Maybe somebody reading this, can confirm or deny.

[Maharani]

@Maharani,
Right now, it's just the latest.

I use an API to query the list of networks. And I wasn't really sure how to determine which one's the "strongest confidently rated" network.
If I would have to make an educated guess, it would be the latest network with "log_gamma_uncertainty" < 0.05.
Maybe somebody reading this, can confirm or deny.

From here:

Strongest confidently rated network filters down to networks whose standard deviation of Elo uncertainty is less than 100... which is almost all of them, this usually just excludes a new net that barely has any data yet... and picks the net with the highest (mean - 2 * standard deviation).

[tomforfun]

hello
i am an user of Zbaduk website, i think this web browser based program is very easy to use.but sometimes i want to login to the website with ipad pro, i find the web page always have many kinds of issue, it seems like the web program don't support touch pannel device, could you add some functions to your web program to support ipad device. after all, it's more convenient using this web program in pad thank in desktop pc

[tomforfun]

hello,
i am an user of Zbaduk website, i think this web browser based program is very easy to use.but sometimes i want to login to the website with ipad pro, i find the web page always have many kinds of issue, it seems like the web program don't support touch pannel device, could you add some functions to your web program to support ipad device. after all, it's more convenient using this web program in pad thank in desktop pc

[Maharani]

*Asks tentatively* Any chance for 13 x 13 and 9 x 9 in the near, middle or distant future?

[spook]

Due to a wide range of other communication platforms it's been a while since my last update here.

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Most important updates:

- support for dark mode
- support for handicap in reviews
- support for smaller board sizes in reviews
- a new connection wizard to make everything more user-friendly.

[floating]

Any A.I. on web browser where I can set the rank of the A.I.? Some website had futurama characters as opponents but the weakest seemed like stronger than low dan too. I would want to play against 1 dan bot, like I can do with AhQ lite mobile app.