Ruleset comparison. winner-loser reversals.

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Ruleset comparison. winner-loser reversals.

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Chinese rules: 177 − 176.75 = White wins by 0.25
Japanese rules: 7 − 6.5 = Black wins by 0.5


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$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ - . . O O O O X . . . . . X X O . . . . -
$$ - . . O O O X X X . . . . X O O . . . . -
$$ - . . O O O X O O X X X . X X X . . . . -
$$ - . . O X X X O O O O X . X O O , . O . -
$$ - . . O O X O O O O O O X X X X . O . . -
$$ - O O O X X X X O O O O O X O O . . . . -
$$ - O X O O X . . X O O O O O O O . . . . -
$$ - X X X X . . . X X X X X X O O . . . . -
$$ - . . X . . X X . . . X O X O X X O O O -
$$ - . . . X X X O X X X X O X X X X X . . -
$$ - . X X X X O O O O X O O O X . X O . . -
$$ - X X O O O O O O O X O X X X X X O . . -
$$ - X O O O O O X O O O O O X X O X X . . -
$$ - X X O O O X X O O O O O X O O O O . . -
$$ - X O O O X X . X X X O O O X X X O O O -
$$ - . X X O X . . . . X O O X X O X X X O -
$$ - . X . X X . X X . X O O O O O O X X X -
$$ - X . X . . . . . X X O O X X X X X X . -
$$ - . . . . . . . . X O O O O X X . . . X -
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]
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[go]$$ 127
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ - O O O O O . X . . . . . X X O O O O O -
$$ - O O O O O X X X . . . . X . O O O O O -
$$ - . . . . . X O O O O O . X X X . . . . -
$$ - . O O X X X O O O O O . X O O . . . . -
$$ - . O O . X . . . . . . X X O O . . O O -
$$ - . O O X X X X O O O O O X O O . . O O -
$$ - . O O . X . . O O O O O . O O . . O O -
$$ - X O O X . . . X X X X X X O O . . O O -
$$ - . . X . . X X . . . O O X . X X . O O -
$$ - . . . X X X . O O X O O X X X X X . . -
$$ - . X X X X . . O O X O O . X . X . O O -
$$ - X X O O . . . O O X O O X X X X . O O -
$$ - X . O O . . X O O . O O X X . X X O O -
$$ - X X O O . X X O O . . . X . . . . O O -
$$ - X . O O X X . X X X O O . X X X . O O -
$$ - . X O O X . . . . X O O X X . X X X . -
$$ - . X . X X . O O . X O O . . . . X X X -
$$ - X . X . . . . . X X O O X X X X X X . -
$$ - . . . O O O O O X . O O . X X . . . X -
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$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ - . . O O O O X X X X X X X X O O . . . -
$$ - . . O O O X X X X X X X X O O O . . . -
$$ - . . O O O X O O X X X X X X X O . . . -
$$ - . . O X X X O O O O X X X O O O . O . -
$$ - . . O O X O O O O O O X X X X O . . . -
$$ - O O O X X X X O O O O O X O O O . . . -
$$ - O X O O X X X X O O O O O O O O . . . -
$$ - X X X X X X X X X X X X X O O O O O O -
$$ - . . . . . X X X X X X O X O X X O O O -
$$ - . . . , . X O X X X X O X X X X X O O -
$$ - X X X X X O O O O X O O O X X X O O O -
$$ - X X O O O O O O O X O X X X X X O O O -
$$ - X O O O O O X O O O O O X X O X X O O -
$$ - X X O O O X X O O O O O X O O O O O O -
$$ - X O O O X X X X X X O O O X X X O O O -
$$ - X X X O X X X X X X O O X X O X X X O -
$$ - . . . . . . . X X X O O O O O O X X X -
$$ - . . . X . . . X X X O O X X X X X . . -
$$ - . . . . . . . X X O O O O X . . . . . -
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]
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The first SGF: komi 7.5; the final diagram: komi 6.5
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Re: Ruleset comparison. winner-loser reversals.

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White got last dame, and no seki or weird bent-four stuff.

So result should be equivalent in both rulesets, yes?
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Re: Ruleset comparison. winner-loser reversals.

Post by Harleqin »

mhlepore wrote:White got last dame, and no seki or weird bent-four stuff.

So result should be equivalent in both rulesets, yes?
Yes, and it is. As EdLee pointed out, the only difference is the komi. If you give White one more point, then, all other things being equal (or equivalent…), White has one more point.
A good system naturally covers all corner cases without further effort.
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