Yunzi stones no longer in production?

Carcosa · Post by **Carcosa** » Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:06 pm

Hello,
I just got this email from Yellow Mountain Imports and was wondering if anyone can verify they no longer make yunzi stones:

“Thank you for contacting us, we don’t carry Yunzi stones anymore since the manufacturer has stopped producing them.”

I thought yunzi stones were only produced by the Chinese government, could this be true?

bogiesan · Post by **bogiesan** » Tue Nov 03, 2020 6:24 pm

This may turn out to be an interesting thread but the only way we're going to be able to arrive at a definitive answer is if someone calls the Yunnan Weiqi Factory and talks to the president one-to-one, muchacho a muchacho. .
The Yunnan Weiqi Factory was government sanctioned but I do not believe it was actually a government department.
More likely explanation of YMI's not getting back to you is that the Yunnan factory is no longer producing Yunzi stones for export or to sell to YMI.
Yunzi stones, as far as I know, remain the favorites among millions of Chinese weiqi fans and they seem to be readily available on Taobao and similar online retail sites.

ScatCat · Post by **ScatCat** » Thu Nov 05, 2020 2:17 pm

You can still buy Yunzi stones. Look on places such as aliexpress or alibaba.

bogiesan · Post by **bogiesan** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:22 am

If you wish to tackle an order from aliexpress, here is a page that explains the four different styles of Yunzi stones, A<B<C<D.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000729691576.html

Bonobo · Post by **Bonobo** » Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:53 pm

Depending on where you live, you may want to check out Mateusz Surma’s store … he has “Ceramic” Go stones there that allegedly are NOT Yunzi but I cannot see or feel a difference

PLUS they seem to be even less breakable than normal Yunzi.

Double convex: https://polgote.com/en/shop/solid-ceram ... ble-convex
Single convex: https://polgote.com/en/shop/solid-ceram ... gle-convex (best price IMO)

IF you should purchase there, please let us know how you like them. I for one love the single-convex ones I got from there.

goTony · Post by **goTony** » Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:04 am

Bonobo wrote:Depending on where you live, you may want to check out Mateusz Surma’s store … he has “Ceramic” Go stones there that allegedly are NOT Yunzi but I cannot see or feel a difference

PLUS they seem to be even less breakable than normal Yunzi.

Double convex: https://polgote.com/en/shop/solid-ceram ... ble-convex
Single convex: https://polgote.com/en/shop/solid-ceram ... gle-convex (best price IMO)

IF you should purchase there, please let us know how you like them. I for one love the single-convex ones I got from there.

I wonder where they are made? And if they are made with lead. It seems to have been a concern for many western players, whether or not it was a really concern of absorption. Also the double convex appear attractive but very large at 11mm in height about a size 39. That seems a little too large but I have never actually played with any that large. Thoughts? Otherwise the equipment looks interesting.

bogiesan · Post by **bogiesan** » Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:14 pm

If you visit aliexpress or alibaba and search for Yunnan or yunzi, you'll see similar products. The product designation from Yunnan Go Factory for their very thick stones is "D-Style, old color".

I do not know of any counterfeit yunzi stones on the market. As an officially state-sponsored or licensed factory, I doubt Chinese authorities would tolerate fakes. (Let's not get into a discussion of intellectual property theft.) The lead thing was dealt with ages ago but one might be wary of yunzi manufactured before 2005.

There are several major game suppliers who are retail outlets for Yunnan Weiqi Factory's products including the yunzi stones. BSTFAMILY is one of them

https://bstfamly888.aliexpress.com/stor ... 101dFPBuIP

https://bstfamly888.aliexpress.com/stor ... 7412.1_1_1

bogiesan · Post by **bogiesan** » Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:58 pm

Apparently Yellow Mountain's spokesperson didn't have a clue what they were talking about. However, if you want a set, I suggest you act soon. There is no way to knowhow long this restock will last. (Myself, I prefer glass stones if I can't play with shell but Yunzi are cool, truly.)

viewtopic.php?f=19&t=18006

KayBur · Post by **KayBur** » Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:56 am

bogiesan wrote:If you visit aliexpress or alibaba and search for Yunnan or yunzi, you'll see similar products. The product designation from Yunnan Go Factory for their very thick stones is "D-Style, old color".

I do not know of any counterfeit yunzi stones on the market. As an officially state-sponsored or licensed factory, I doubt Chinese authorities would tolerate fakes. (Let's not get into a discussion of intellectual property theft.) The lead thing was dealt with ages ago but one might be wary of yunzi manufactured before 2005.

There are several major game suppliers who are retail outlets for Yunnan Weiqi Factory's products including the yunzi stones. BSTFAMILY is one of them

https://bstfamly888.aliexpress.com/stor ... 101dFPBuIP

https://bstfamly888.aliexpress.com/stor ... 7412.1_1_1

Indeed, a number of goods can be ordered directly from Chinese stores, and the mail will deliver them. Of course, this is much longer, but there are some products that are worth waiting for.

Bertram · Post by **Bertram** » Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:07 am

I just bought the "Ceramic" Stones from http://www.polgote.com (Mateusz Surmas Shop)

https://polgote.com/en/shop/solid-ceram ... ble-convex

They are matt like Yunzi Stones. But the white stones aren't greenish which i don't like about Yunzi Stones. The feeling holding them in my hands is like Yunzi. For my Katsura Board the ceramic Stones fit very well as it has a darker brownish matt color. The white Shell Stones are too bright for that board. The ceramic Stones are also matt. Therefore I prefer them with the Katsura Board but on my Hon Kaya Board I prefer the Slate and Shell Stones.

bogiesan · Post by **bogiesan** » Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:35 am

Bertram wrote:I just bought the "Ceramic" Stones from http://www.polgote.com (Mateusz Surmas Shop)

https://polgote.com/en/shop/solid-ceram ... ble-convex

Is this the set you have purchased?

viewtopic.php?f=19&t=18052

You might wish to start a new topic to describe your experience, maybe post some photos, so visitors can find your comments without searching through this Yunzi thread.

Bertram · Post by **Bertram** » Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:26 am

bogiesan wrote:
Is this the set you have purchased?

viewtopic.php?f=19&t=18052

You might wish to start a new topic to describe your experience, maybe post some photos, so visitors can find your comments without searching through this Yunzi thread.

Correctly said i bought this set from Schach Niggemann. They sell Surma's stones in Germany:

https://www.schachversand.de/material/g ... 11-mm.html

The photo there matches the color of the stones better than at Surma's Shop and my iPhone photos I tried to make right now as you proposed. You may enlarge the photo published at the schachversand.de link

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