jlt v. hailthorn

Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:33 am

For what it's worth, KataGo on my computer puts the game close to even at this peep:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm52 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O X . . . X . . O X X . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . , O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . X O O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . O O . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

It is recommending to play here:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm52 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O X . 2 . X . . O X X . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . , O . O . . X . . . | $$ | . X O O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . X . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . O O . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

At the time of resignation, it does put black behind by quite a bit. But given the swing that just happened, it's hard to say that a swing like that couldn't happen, again.

Anyway, good game!

marvin · Post by **marvin** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:40 am

@Kirby What does Kata think about 52? It is an interesting move that I don't know how to evaluate, but I probably wouldn't play it...

jlt · Post by **jlt** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 6:11 am

Katago thinks that

loses about 2 points, and prefers

at G17.

hailthorn011 · Post by **hailthorn011** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:24 pm

I had a lot of fun with this game. The problem was I completely misread the move I played. And I had a feeling I had misplayed prior. It's tough because overall I don't think I played terribly in this game per se but at my level of course that's probably outrageous to say.

Post by **Joaz Banbeck** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:22 pm

hailthorn011 wrote:Actually I'm going to go ahead and resign here...

Does this mean that my game vs drmwc is the last Malkovich game?

Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:37 pm

I think I'm also still playing paK0. Last move was almost 2 years ago.

hailthorn011 · Post by **hailthorn011** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 5:06 pm

Joaz Banbeck wrote:
hailthorn011 wrote:Actually I'm going to go ahead and resign here...
Does this mean that my game vs drmwc is the last Malkovich game?

You tryna throw stones?

jlt · Post by **jlt** » Tue Jul 27, 2021 11:27 pm

hailthorn011 wrote:I had a lot of fun with this game. The problem was I completely misread the move I played. And I had a feeling I had misplayed prior. It's tough because overall I don't think I played terribly in this game per se but at my level of course that's probably outrageous to say.

I think you lack confidence. You saw that you made bad moves, but weren't aware that I made almost as many bad moves as you. Go is a long game, I've already won games in which I was behind by 30 points at move 150 and vice-versa.

hailthorn011 · Post by **hailthorn011** » Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:14 pm

jlt wrote:
hailthorn011 wrote:I had a lot of fun with this game. The problem was I completely misread the move I played. And I had a feeling I had misplayed prior. It's tough because overall I don't think I played terribly in this game per se but at my level of course that's probably outrageous to say.
I think you lack confidence. You saw that you made bad moves, but weren't aware that I made almost as many bad moves as you. Go is a long game, I've already won games in which I was behind by 30 points at move 150 and vice-versa.

I think it's fair to say I lack confidence. I haven't played too many games since I came back. Especially not against people. I never got fully comfortable with losing which is probably a trait that holds me back significantly. It's not something I easily confess either. I remember when I was stuck at 7k for the longest time. One of the most frustrating periods of my Go playing life. I think my last roadblock was 10k. But once I became 6k I dropped down to 5k pretty quick. Probably not playing at a 5k level now but I crush 8k bots which is sort of surprising to me.

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