#231 drmwc vs Joaz Banbeck

Joaz Banbeck · **#281**

jonsa wrote:

... I want to see the conclusion!)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibonacci_number

paK0 · **#282**

I can already see it, ten years from now this game and mine with Kirby will still be going with about a move per year during the more active periods :lol:

drmwc · **#283**

I saw there were new posts, and thought it may be my move...

At least we are using Fibonacci, and not Busy Beaver!

ez4u · **#284**

ez4u wrote:

BTW, what is the record for slow play in a Malkovich? This game began on Feb. 26 last year.

I posted this in February 2015! :blackeye:

hyperpape · **#285**

I wonder, does everyone involved know whose turn it is?

Joaz Banbeck · **#286**

hyperpape wrote:

I wonder, does everyone involved know whose turn it is?

It is my turn. At last I think it is. Regardless, I'm going to move next.
I just need some time to think about it.

Joaz Banbeck · **#287**

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This stone contains his group, and connects to my center group like this:

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or like this:

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drmwc · **#288**

I read a while ago (maybe in a Kageyama book? Or maybe the Treasure Chest Enigma?) that if your opponent spends 1 hour on a move, you should spend 2 hours on the response.

I moved in November 2017; and the reply was May 2019. So I think that give me 3 years for the next move, or a May 2022 target.

Bill Spight · **#289**

drmwc wrote:

I read a while ago (maybe in a Kageyama book? Or maybe the Treasure Chest Enigma?) that if your opponent spends 1 hour on a move, you should spend 2 hours on the response.

I am put in mind of a story about Emmanuel Lasker by a British player who played against him in a tournament after Lasker was no longer world champion. The player wanted to sacrifice a knight against Lasker, and because it was Lasker, he checked his reading more than once to make sure that the sacrifice was sound. To his surprise, Lasker replied almost immediately, and declined the sacrifice. After the game he asked Lasker how he had figured out his move so quickly. Lasker replied, "If a strong master thinks for a half hour and then offers me a knight, I think I should not take it."

Also, if my opponent thinks for one hour on a move, someone should wake me up. :lol:

Joaz Banbeck · **#290**

drmwc wrote:

... I think that give me 3 years for the next move, or a May 2022 target.

Sure. No problem. I wouldn't want you to feel rushed.
But there is an upper bound...https://www.space.com/14732-sun-burns-star-death.html

bobmcg · **#291**

drmwc wrote:

I read a while ago (maybe in a Kageyama book? Or maybe the Treasure Chest Enigma?) that if your opponent spends 1 hour on a move, you should spend 2 hours on the response.

I moved in November 2017; and the reply was May 2019. So I think that give me 3 years for the next move, or a May 2022 target.

This bit of advice regarding doubling the time your opponent takes is quoted in a story told by Nakayama in Gokyou Monogatari. A translated version appeared in issue number 50 of "Go World". It involved episodes of contests of endurance during the tournament for qualification for pro shodan in around 1932. In those days no clocks were used in the qualification tournament. Nakayama described two cases. One involved the late Hoshino Toshi whose opponent took eight hours to make a move and Hoshino, quoted his teacher regarding doubling the time, and took 16 hours to make a pretty obvious move. The game continued in this fashion, as did the next two games and Hoshino played for six days without sleep. The other case involved Nakayama's teacher, Suzuki Goro, and Sakata.

Joaz Banbeck · **#292**

drmwc wrote:

I read a while ago (maybe in a Kageyama book? Or maybe the Treasure Chest Enigma?) that if your opponent spends 1 hour on a move, you should spend 2 hours on the response.

I moved in November 2017; and the reply was May 2019. So I think that give me 3 years for the next move, or a May 2022 target.

Shall we make byo-yomi six months?

ez4u · **#293**

I think it's time to admit that both players have lost on time. :blackeye:

drmwc · **#294**

Thanks for the reminder! I will aim to make a move some time this year....

Joaz Banbeck · **#295**

Joaz Banbeck wrote:

...
Shall we make byo-yomi six months?

I just noticed in another thread, ( https://lifein19x19.com/forum/viewtopic ... 81#p246881 ) a more relaxed byo-yomi was used. That seems to set a precedent. So the proper term should be ten years.

Sorry to have rushed you.

Joaz Banbeck · **#296**

Something to entertain you observers for the next couple of years:

Kirby · **#297**

If you guys wait long enough, some of the stones might decay, and you’ll have a different board position to deal with.

Joaz Banbeck · **#298**

drmwc wrote:

Thanks for the reminder! I will aim to make a move some time this year....

You only have 16 days left in this year.

Joaz Banbeck · **#299**

2021 was a bad year, so nobody can hold it against you if you didn't make a move then.

drmwc wrote:

... a May 2022 target.

Insisting on the exact month would be crass. Shall we say sometime in 2022?

jlt · **#300**

Kirby wrote:

If you guys wait long enough, some of the stones might decay, and you’ll have a different board position to deal with.

That's a nice idea of go variant. Let's call it "decay-go": stones disappear after a fixed period, say 10 years. Or maybe "radioactive-go": stones have a half life of 10 years. The player who is behind can then try to complicate the game and force his opponent to think for a few decades, so that the board returns to the empty state.

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