#268 Gorim vs jlt

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[go]$$Bcm119 Captures B:0 W:3
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O O . O , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . X . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O 3 X . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X O . X . X O O . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . O X O . . . . . O O O . . . |
$$ | . O O O O . O X X X . . O X O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O X . . X . X X X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm121 Captures B:0 W:3
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O O . O , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . X . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O X X . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X O . X 2 X O O . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . O X O . . . . . O O O . . . |
$$ | . O O O O . O X X X . . O X O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O X . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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[go]$$Bcm121 Captures B:0 W:3
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O O . O , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . X . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O . 4 . 5 O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O X X . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X O . X 2 X O O . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . O X O 3 . . . . O O O . . . |
$$ | . O O O O . O X X X . . O X O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O X . . X . X X X . . . |
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are pretty complicated, I don't know if I die but I feel I have no choice, otherwise I have no chance to win this game.
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[go]$$Bcm121 Captures B:0 W:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O O . O , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . X . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O X X . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X O . X O X O O . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . O X O 3 . . . . O O O . . . |
$$ | . O O O O . O X X X . . O X O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O X . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm123 Captures B:0 W:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O O . O , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . X . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O . 2 . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O X X . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X O . X O X O O . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . O X O X . . . . O O O . . . |
$$ | . O O O O . O X X X . . O X O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O X . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm123 Captures B:0 W:3
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O O . O , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . X . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X . 3 . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O X X . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X O . X O X O O . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . O X O X . . . . O O O . . . |
$$ | . O O O O . O X X X . . O X O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O X . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm125 Captures B:0 W:3
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O O . O , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . X . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X . X 2 O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O X X . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X O . X O X O O . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . O X O X . . . . O O O . . . |
$$ | . O O O O . O X X X . . O X O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O X . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm125 Captures B:0 W:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O O . O , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . X . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X . X O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O . 3 O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O X X . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X O . X O X O O . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . O X O X . . . . O O O . . . |
$$ | . O O O O . O X X X . . O X O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O X . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Will I channel my inner Kato?!
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[go]$$Bcm127 Captures B:0 W:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O O . O , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . X . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X . X O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X 2 O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O . X O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O X X . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X O . X O X O O . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . O X O X . . . . O O O . . . |
$$ | . O O O O . O X X X . . O X O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O X . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm127 Captures B:0 W:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O O . O , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . X . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X 3 X O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X O O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O . X O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O X X . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X O . X O X O O . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . O X O X . . . . O O O . . . |
$$ | . O O O O . O X X X . . O X O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O X . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm129 Captures B:0 W:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O O . O , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . X . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X X X O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X O O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O . X O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O X X . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X O . X O X O O . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . O X O X . . . . O O O . . . |
$$ | . O O O O . O X X X . 2 O X O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O X . . X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm129 Captures B:0 W:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O O . O , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . X . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X X X O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X O O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O . X O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O X X . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X O . X O X O O . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . O X O X . . . . O O O . . . |
$$ | . O O O O . O X X X . O O X O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O X . 3 X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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I think I am dead but let's continue a few moves.
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[go]$$Bcm131 Captures B:0 W:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O O . O , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . X . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X X X O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X O O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O . X O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O X X 2 . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X O . X O X O O . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . O X O X . . . . O O O . . . |
$$ | . O O O O . O X X X . O O X O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O X . X X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm131 Captures B:0 W:3
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O O . O , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . X . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X X X O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X O O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O . X O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O X X O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X O . X O X O O . O 3 X . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . O X O X . . . . O O O . . . |
$$ | . O O O O . O X X X . O O X O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O X . X X . X X X . . . |
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Re: #268 Gorim vs jlt

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I resign. Thank you for the game!
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Re: #268 Gorim vs jlt

Post by Dokuganryu »

Thanks! It was quite a heavy thinking game for me.

At first, I tried to be less aggressive than usual, hence I "built territory" on the O and P lines, instead of cutting and fighting there.

I must say that as soon as I did that, I regretted it - your influence seemed too much for me to cope with.

The ease in which I survived with the K10 group was quite a surprise, even though the game seems to be quite even after that, and my positions had much weaknesses that you could exploit.

I admit that I felt behind in that phase of the game, and made moves in hope that you will answer them directly, instead of starting to exploit my weaknesses. My hopes were fulfilled, and I think that was why I won in the end. If white assumed a bit more assertive style and start pushing black around, things could go different.

Being afraid of the many weaknesses in my shape, I was relieved that you choose to play B15 in the end. While it was quite a few points, it was gote, and gave me another chance to fix myself.

K7 was probably unnecessary at that point, E9 probably would be enough to win the game by a very small margin.
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