KataGo Distributed Training and new networks

And · Post by **And** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 7:35 am

20 games KataGo (40b s1110 maxPlayouts 10, numSearchThreads 1, japanese) - gtp4zen (--jpn_rules -t4 -r10 -s6000 -n3 -o1.0 -p0.75). 18:2
zen settings correspond to 9d

akigo · Post by **akigo** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 12:27 pm

And wrote:please write in more detail what are these "reading errors"

In a complex fight there may be a variation that "looks good" for black after 10 moves, but inevitably leads to black's whole group being captured after 20 moves. If KataGo is limited to 10 playouts, it can't see that bad outcome, therefore it might erroneously choose that variation as black, thereby commiting a big blunder.

If a human did this, we would say: "He/she didn't read deeply enough" or "He/she commited a reading error". That's why I used this term.

And · Post by **And** » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:31 am

it doesn't depend on the opponent, i.e. 10 playouts in any case can lead to reading errors, or only against a strong opponent?

And · Post by **And** » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:36 am

13 and 14 game BadukAI - Sabaki 1:1 (5:9)

akigo · Post by **akigo** » Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:49 pm

And wrote:it doesn't depend on the opponent, i.e. 10 playouts in any case can lead to reading errors, or only against a strong opponent?

The reading errors may occur against any opponent, but against weak opponents they will often not matter, as they happen only in complex fighting situations. And in such situations a weak opponent will often not be able to find the move that punishes the error.

And · Post by **And** » Mon Mar 21, 2022 7:17 am

it means that a person still has a chance to defeat KataGo!

and what value of playouts will probably be sufficient? and it depends on the network size (10...60 blocks)?

And · Post by **And** » Mon Mar 21, 2022 7:28 am

15 and 16 game BadukAI - Sabaki 0:2 (5:11)

akigo · Post by **akigo** » Mon Mar 21, 2022 2:43 pm

And wrote:and what value of playouts will probably be sufficient? and it depends on the network size (10...60 blocks)?

I can't judge that. But I can report that they use 500 playouts on katagotraining.org for their rating games.

And · Post by **And** » Tue Mar 22, 2022 8:37 am

@akigo

thanks a lot!

And · Post by **And** » Tue Mar 22, 2022 8:40 am

17 and 18 game BadukAI - Sabaki 0:2 (5:13)

And · Post by **And** » Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:49 am

19 and 20 game BadukAI - Sabaki 0:2 (5:15)

And · Post by **And** » Fri Mar 25, 2022 6:29 pm

21 and 22 game BadukAI - Sabaki 1:1 (6:16)

And · Post by **And** » Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:39 am

23 and 24 game BadukAI - Sabaki 2:0
after 24 games BadukAI (40b optimized version 1.13.2, maxPlayouts 10, numSearchThreads 1) - Sabaki (40b s1110 maxPlayouts 10, numSearchThreads 1) 8:16

And · Post by **And** » Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:55 pm

BadukAI 1.14 (40b optimized version 1.13.2, maxPlayouts 20, numSearchThreads 1) - Sabaki (40b s1110 maxPlayouts 10, numSearchThreads 1, GraphSearch)
1 and 2 game 2:0

And · Post by **And** » Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:44 pm

3 and 4 game BadukAI - Sabaki 2:0 (4:0)

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