Following Nakamura Sumire

[pajaro]

If hair is of any indication, Sumire is on the right track to become a legend

[pajaro]

Here's a curiosity:

Sumire won 2 games in one day, got the 40 needed and was promoted. Effective the next day.

Let's say that she only needed 1 game to be promoted. She wins the game, hooray! you are 3-dan *effective tomorrow*, and in the afternoon you play again.

In this second game of the day (which she won too), would she have been 2-dan? 3-dan? Result wise, it's not important. But, for her record, promotion to 4-dan, and game fee, it may be important. This is something that usually doesn't happen, because you usually don't play 2 days in a row, and of course not twice the same day. When the new system started, the Teikei, Wakagoi... didn't exist. But now they do.

I guess this is one of those cases where you should read the rules to the last kanji.

[CDavis7M]

I assume that like any business or organization there is a human to approve the decision. She was not automatically promoted.

[silviu22]

she won 2 games in the prelims of the Teikei Cup, one of those new tournaments. Perhaps this is the kind of games Silviu didn't count.

You are correct: I only counted games in the tournaments mentioned in this list: https://www.nihonkiin.or.jp/player/rank.html. I can't read Japanese, but it doesn't look to me that the Teikei Cup is on the list of tournaments that count towards promotion. Can someone who tell me whether this tournament is in that list?

[John Fairbairn]

Can someone who tell me whether this tournament is in that list

I suspect you'll find the explanation is that the Nihon Ki-in is not great at updating the non-news pages on its website.

[pajaro]

Today Sumire beat Nyu Eiko in the second round of the female kisei.

This should go in the Amazon thread, also because I wanted to say that I expect Sumire to fight Fujisawa Rina in the final.

What took me here today is that I noticed that today Sumire got her 43rd win this year, according to the NK website. gotoeveryone.k2ss.info counts 44 wins (as of 2022-11-10), that would be 45 wins today.

Last year, Sumire won 43 games, too (again, NK website), with 18 loses against this year's 20 loses.

Her performance is better, because she is playing harder opponents in more advanced rounds, as she is starting to be a seeded player here and there and is skipping some prelims. Even so, still a month and a half to go before the end of the year. She is in the race for most games won.

[John Fairbairn]

For those who watch the Igo/Shogi Channel, Sumire is playing a special match with Joanne Missingham (who is now being called Koku Kaka in Japan - they used to say Koku Yoshiyoshi, which is soooooooooooo much nicer) on 23 November.

Also, Sumire is still part of the Japan National Team and now the public is being asked to donate to the team.

(Joanne, 28, is now 7-dan BTW).

[Elom0]

They almost played in the Fumakilla exhibition tournament, so maybe this is a kind of debt repayment for fans who didn't get to see that match, haha!

[pajaro]

They already played when Sumire became pro.

According to a post in English, of the Nihon Kiin, it was Sumire's "New Shodan series match". I knew this game happened, I didn't know it was her new shodan match. Actually, I thought Sumire played Xie Yimin... They are both from Taiwan, so maybe I was mistaken.

Anyway, in that game, Sumire took black, with no komi, and lost.

This time... it will be an even game.

[Elom0]

They already played when Sumire became pro.

According to a post in English, of the Nihon Kiin, it was Sumire's "New Shodan series match". I knew this game happened, I didn't know it was her new shodan match. Actually, I thought Sumire played Xie Yimin... They are both from Taiwan, so maybe I was mistaken.

Anyway, in that game, Sumire took black, with no komi, and lost.

This time... it will be an even game.

I'm pretty sure it was someone else she played for her Shin-Shodan match. However it should have been Cho Chikun obviously

[pajaro]

I'm pretty sure it was someone else she played for her Shin-Shodan match.

I was pretty sure too. But I found this:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... ne&paipv=0

and then I was not so sure.

However it should have been Cho Chikun obviously

Obviously!

[Elom0]

For those who watch the Igo/Shogi Channel, Sumire is playing a special match with Joanne Missingham (who is now being called Koku Kaka in Japan - they used to say Koku Yoshiyoshi, which is soooooooooooo much nicer) on 23 November.

Also, Sumire is still part of the Japan National Team and now the public is being asked to donate to the team.

(Joanne, 28, is now 7-dan BTW).

I wonder how the Taiwanese promotion system works

[pajaro]

I wonder how the Taiwanese promotion system works

Here:

https://senseis.xmp.net/?TaiwaneseProfe ... otionRules

[floating]

https://home.yikeweiqi.com/#/live/room/100194/0/0

Nakamura vs Sakai Yuki, a promisingi 18 years old in the Teikei Cup prelims from today. Enjoyable flow in the game, Nakamura lost

[pajaro]

Nakamura vs Sakai Yuki, a promisingi 18 years old in the Teikei Cup prelims from today. Enjoyable flow in the game, Nakamura lost

A comment of the game by JK (in Japanese, but with emphasis in universal language):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUZgx9t76uA

In the previous post, I could see the game with AI evaluation for each move, as usual these days. And because of another discussion about comments, AI, and so on (https://www.lifein19x19.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=18864 read it, it's interesting), I wanted to add the youtube video.

In this video, and thanks to a comment that can be translated, I understood that Sumire lost because she lost a chance (well, not only because of this... but she could have won). Sakai was "accused" of attacking too hard, leaving weak spots behind. He was luck that Sumire didn't punish those mistakes and won, but in the future, this way of playing can lead to trouble. He is still young, after all.

But what I find most interesting is that this way of playing... Sumire is usually "accused" of doing the same