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Re: Engine Tournament

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SAI continues to regress (details). Thanks to all of them, who gives for that their computing time...
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KataGo became stronger after the year training (details). The "heavyweight" file became a bit stronger (12-8), than the two years old "light heavyweight" one...
The 2022 year rate of KataGo "weight categories" is next:
"bantamweight" <|= 2 ^ 23 B (< 12 MiB) - g170e-b10c128-s1141046784-d204142634.bin (6)
"featherweight" 2 ^ 24 B (12 - 24 MiB) - I haven't
"lightweight" 2 ^ 25 B (24 - 48 MiB) - g170e-b15c192-s1672170752-d466197061.bin (5)
"welterweight" 2 ^ 26 B (48 - 96 MiB) - g170e-b20c256x2-s5303129600-d1228401921.bin (4)
"middleweight" 2 ^ 27 B (96 - 192 MiB) - kata1-b40c256-s12350780416-d3055274313.bin (1)
"light heavyweight" 2 ^ 28 B (192 - 384 MiB) - g170-b30c320x2-s4824661760-d1229536699.bin (3)
"heavyweight" 2 ^ 29 B (384 - 768 MiB) - kata1-b60c320-s6782286336-d3070935549.bin (2)
"super heavyweight" >|= 2 ^ 30 B (> 768 MiB) - I haven't
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Try using the new b18c384nbt-uec.bin.gz net, it's 95MB in size and currently the strongest available net. As of now it's only available through KataGo's github page, but in a couple days/weeks it should replace 60b as the main training net. You'll need KataGo 1.12 to run it https://github.com/lightvector/KataGo/r ... ag/v1.12.4
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I'm using sizes of unpacked files. It will replace the weight file of the same "weight category"...
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Newer (eigen) version of KataGo is a bit (statistically insignificant) weaker than older one (again): v1.12.4-v1.11.0 15-17 (details)...
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New type KataGo weight file (b18c384nbt-uec.bin) is a bit stronger than the 2022 year winner of its "middleweight" category (kata1-b40c256-s12350780416-d3055274313 - b18c384nbt-uec 9 - 11) and markedly stronger than "heavyweight" one: kata1-b60c320-s6782286336-d3070935549 - b18c384nbt-uec 3 - 17 (details).

New rate of KataGo strongest in their "categories" weight files:
"bantamweight" <|= 2 ^ 23 B (< 12 MiB) - g170e-b10c128-s1141046784-d204142634.bin (6)
"featherweight" 2 ^ 24 B (12 - 24 MiB) - I haven't
"lightweight" 2 ^ 25 B (24 - 48 MiB) - g170e-b15c192-s1672170752-d466197061.bin (5)
"welterweight" 2 ^ 26 B (48 - 96 MiB) - g170e|kata1-b20c256x2-s5303129600-d1228401921.bin (4)
"middleweight" 2 ^ 27 B (96 - 192 MiB) - b18c384nbt-uec.bin (1)
"light heavyweight" 2 ^ 28 B (192 - 384 MiB) - g170-b30c320x2-s4824661760-d1229536699.bin (3)
"heavyweight" 2 ^ 29 B (384 - 768 MiB) - kata1-b60c320-s6782286336-d3070935549.bin (2)
"super heavyweight" >|= 2 ^ 30 B (> 768 MiB) - I haven't
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Re: Engine Tournament

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LeelaZero became a bit stronger: 57-41 in summary (details).
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Pachi (DCNN) became a bit stronger, but still is weaker than Zen (details).
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Pachi (--nodcnn) became a bit stronger than Ray (details).
So the rating of Go engines without using GPU is next:

Top level
1) KataGo
2) LeelaZero
3) SAI

High level
4) Leela
5) Rayon
6) Zenith
7) Pachi_DCNN
8) Hiratuka

Middle level
9) Pachi
10)Ray
11)MoGo
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KataGo v1.13.0 is stronger (17-11) than previous version (details).
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Re: Engine Tournament

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KataGo b18c384nbt-optimisticv13-s5971M.bin - b18c384nbt-uec.bin: 13 - 7 (details).
So the rate of KataGo "weight categories" is next:
"bantamweight" <|= 2 ^ 23 B (< 12 MiB) - g170e-b10c128-s1141046784-d204142634.bin (6)
"featherweight" 2 ^ 24 B (12 - 24 MiB) - I haven't
"lightweight" 2 ^ 25 B (24 - 48 MiB) - g170e-b15c192-s1672170752-d466197061.bin (5)
"welterweight" 2 ^ 26 B (48 - 96 MiB) - g170e|kata1-b20c256x2-s5303129600-d1228401921.bin (4)
"middleweight" 2 ^ 27 B (96 - 192 MiB) - b18c384nbt-optimisticv13-s5971M.bin (1)
"light heavyweight" 2 ^ 28 B (192 - 384 MiB) - g170-b30c320x2-s4824661760-d1229536699.bin (3)
"heavyweight" 2 ^ 29 B (384 - 768 MiB) - kata1-b60c320-s6782286336-d3070935549.bin (2)
"super heavyweight" >|= 2 ^ 30 B (> 768 MiB) - I haven't
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Re: Engine Tournament

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Pachi doesn't become stronger (details).
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Re: Engine Tournament

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During last year KataGo weight files of "middleweight category" became stronger, but of "heavyweight" - not (details).
The rate of KataGo "weight categories" with their strongest weight files:
"bantamweight" <|= 2 ^ 23 B (< 12 MiB) - g170e-b10c128-s1141046784-d204142634.bin (6)
"featherweight" 2 ^ 24 B (12 - 24 MiB) - I haven't
"lightweight" 2 ^ 25 B (24 - 48 MiB) - g170e-b15c192-s1672170752-d466197061.bin (5)
"welterweight" 2 ^ 26 B (48 - 96 MiB) - g170e|kata1-b20c256x2-s5303129600-d1228401921.bin (4)
"middleweight" 2 ^ 27 B (96 - 192 MiB) - kata1-b18c384nbt-s8526915840-d3929217702.bin & kata1-b40c256-s12860905472-d3197353276.bin (1)
"light heavyweight" 2 ^ 28 B (192 - 384 MiB) - g170-b30c320x2-s4824661760-d1229536699.bin (3)
"heavyweight" 2 ^ 29 B (384 - 768 MiB) - kata1-b60c320-s6782286336-d3070935549.bin (2)
"super heavyweight" >|= 2 ^ 30 B (> 768 MiB) - I haven't
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Re: Engine Tournament

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KataGo became stronger: 18 - 12 in sparring of v.1.14.0 vs v.1.13.0 (details).
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Ray didn't become stronger (details).
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