Fujita Reo Kansai Kiin Pro Aged 9

kvasir · Post by **kvasir** » Thu Feb 22, 2024 2:26 pm

I seem to have had Leo's opponent mixed up with his opponent in the game before.

Game record:

The main story in the game to me was in this part.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$W White takes territory instead of helping the stones in the center. $$ +--------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O .| $$ | . . O . . . . O . . . . . O . O X O X| $$ | . O . O O . O . . . . . X . O O O X .| $$ | . X O O X X O X . , . . . X . , X . .| $$ | . X X X . . X O O O O O . . . X . X .| $$ | . . . . . . X X X X X . 4 . . . . . .| $$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . .| $$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . .| $$ | . . O . O O . X . . . . . . . . 2 . .| $$ | . X . , X O . O . , . . . . . , . X .| $$ | . . X . X O O . . . . . . . . X X O .| $$ | . . X . O X X O . . . . . . . X O O .| $$ | . . . O . O X X . . . . . . X O X O .| $$ | . X X O . X X . . . . . . O O O . . .| $$ | . . O . 1 . . . X . . . X X X O . . .| $$ | . X O O . . O O X , . . . O X O O . .| $$ | . X X O . O . X O X . . X X O X O . .| $$ | . X O . . . O X O X . . 6 5 O X X 3 .| $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 . .| $$ +--------------------------------------+[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$B Black attack is soft and from a distance. $$ +--------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O .| $$ | . . O . . . . O . . . . . O . O X O X| $$ | . O . O O . O . . . . . X . O O O X .| $$ | . X O O X X O X . , . . . X . , X . .| $$ | . X X X . . X O O O O O . . . X . X .| $$ | . . . . . . X X X X X . X . . . . . .| $$ | . . O . X . . 5 . . . . . . . . . . .| $$ | . . . . . . O 3 4 . . . . . . . . . .| $$ | . . O . O O . X 2 . . . 7 . . . X . .| $$ | . X . , X O . O . , 6 . . . . , . X .| $$ | . . X . X O O . . . . 1 . . . X X O .| $$ | . . X . O X X O . . . . . . . X O O .| $$ | . . . O . O X X . . . . . . X O X O .| $$ | . X X O . X X . . . . . . O O O . . .| $$ | . . O . O . . . X . . . X X X O . . .| $$ | . X O O . . O O X , . . . O X O O . .| $$ | . X X O . O . X O X . . X X O X O . .| $$ | . X O . . . O X O X . . X O O X X O .| $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . .| $$ +--------------------------------------+[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$W White quickly makes shape. $$ +--------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O .| $$ | . . O . . . . O . . . . . O . O X O X| $$ | . O . O O . O . . . . . X . O O O X .| $$ | . X O O X X O X . , . . . X . , X . .| $$ | . X X X . . X O O O O O . . . X . X .| $$ | . . . . . . X X X X X . X . . . . . .| $$ | . . O 1 X . . X . . . . . . . . . . .| $$ | . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . . . . .| $$ | . . O . O O . X O . 4 . X . . . X . .| $$ | . X . , X O . O . 5 O . . . . , . X .| $$ | . . X . X O O . . 3 2 X . . . X X O .| $$ | . . X . O X X O . . . . . . . X O O .| $$ | . . . O . O X X . . . . . . X O X O .| $$ | . X X O . X X . . . . . . O O O . . .| $$ | . . O . O . . . X . . . X X X O . . .| $$ | . X O O . . O O X , . . . O X O O . .| $$ | . X X O . O . X O X . . X X O X O . .| $$ | . X O . . . O X O X . . X O O X X O .| $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . .| $$ +--------------------------------------+[/go]

Is white's group just fine now?

It is not so easy.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$B $$ +--------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O .| $$ | . . O . . . . O . . . . . O . O X O X| $$ | . O . O O . O . . . . . X . O O O X .| $$ | . X O O X X O X . , . . . X . , X . .| $$ | . X X X . . X O O O O O . . . X . X .| $$ | . . . . b . X X X X X T X . . . . . .| $$ | . . O O X . . X . . . . . . . . . . .| $$ | . . . . . . O X O . . . . . . . . . .| $$ | . . O . O O d X O . X S X . . . X . .| $$ | . X c , X O . O . O O . . . . , . X .| $$ | . . X . X O O . . O X X . . . X X O .| $$ | . . X . O X X O a . . . . . . X O O .| $$ | . . . O . O X X . . . . . . X O X O .| $$ | . X X O . X X . . . . . . O O O . . .| $$ | . . O . O . . . X . . . X X X O . . .| $$ | . X O O . . O O X , . . . O X O O . .| $$ | . X X O . O . X O X . . X X O X O . .| $$ | . X O . . . O X O X . . X O O X X O .| $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . .| $$ +--------------------------------------+[/go]

For a quick answer consider this diagram where A and B are the best ways to make eyes for white. At first it would appear that that white has many simple ways to make more eyes if he can play A. The critical question, then, is if white can live if black can play A. The answer is yes, white can make the final eye, by just playing simple, thanks to C and D.

However, if you were to analyze what happens if black plays B or C then you could find it difficult to guarantee two eyes. It would appear to come down to the cut marked with a triangle and the wedge marked with a square. According to KataGo white will often be connecting on the first line to the upper left corner. It is not at all clear to me that works after black connects at the triangle point, maybe white would have to play A and go into the center anyway. It gets wildly complicated.

Basically, if white only gets to play A then it is a hard reading problem that can go on for many moves. I at least don't see a way to simplify it. But if black attack with C then the form appears alive, there aren't many variations to be checked and they seem to lead quickly to life, so quickly that I summarized it in only a few words.

I don't know how Leo approached thinking about this position but when black connected the triangle spot he defended the shape. That suggested that the relationship to this cut was clear to him.

John Fairbairn · Post by **John Fairbairn** » Thu Feb 22, 2024 3:19 pm

It's never easy to be certain how to read Japanese names, or how to transcribe them even when you know how they sound. But Reo seems the best choice here (that's how the Japanese say it). Most Japanese newspapers and similar sources use Reo; only Youtubers seem to like Leo, and at a guess I'd say that is because Youtubers are young and there are some singers or the like popular with the young who affect the westernised Leo form. But if you read what Fujita Reo's father says about his little boy, he has yet to be contaminated by the pop scene. He's just a normal little lad and his father makes sure he stays that way, keeping him away from staring at a go board and preferring the outdoor life for him. (Unlike Sumire - should we say Violet? - there is no go in his family. He fell in love with black and white counters at age 4 and fell for Othello. His father tried to find an Othello club but couldn't and so they ended up in a go club, and so history was in the making.)

It seems worth mentioning that a young Japanese football star currently plays for Celtic under the name Hatate Reo. Also, if you do insist on westernising, surely you have to say Fujisawa Lena and Ueno Lisa, and so on.

Mind you, I never forget the Nihon Shogi Renmei not knowing how to pronounce the name of their then top lady player: Takojima or Takoshima. When I phoned her to find out, she sweetly said, "You can call me anything you like."

Incidentally, it's not obvious even to Japanese people how to read the characters for Reo. Some will say Satohisa and other variants. I think the inference they draw from that is that they assume and maybe WANT it to be an ordinary Japanese name.

botija · Post by **botija** » Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:43 am

It looks like there is influence of Reo Messi's fame both in the name choice and in the youtubers pronunciaton. Funny enough, Messi's name is Lionel so you can find both nicknames "Lío" and "Leo" (which normally comes from "Leonardo", a more common name in previous years, and is easier to pronounce in spanish).

kvasir · Post by **kvasir** » Wed Mar 13, 2024 1:31 am

Leo is on his way to Korea in April.
https://www.chosun.com/english/kpop-cul ... PKM6SXYGM/

The articles also has some info on other players that did the same, for example Onishi Ryuhei.

Take a closer look at the link, this is in the kpop section

kvasir · Post by **kvasir** » Sun Jul 21, 2024 2:24 pm

I wonder how he is doing in Korea. I don't think I have seen anything from him since April, when he was supposed to be heading to Korea.

pajaro · Post by **pajaro** » Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:37 am

He is in Mamumamu ranking, which means he is active in Japan.

His record this year is 6-12, more games than I can see in go4go.net

kvasir · Post by **kvasir** » Sat Jul 27, 2024 10:41 am

I see in some Japanese article in Korean media that he was planning to stay for 3 months starting in April to study. That period would be about over now.

What I saw somewhere, I'm not sure where (and I was using the translation so it might not be accurate), was that he was studying in Korea in January and then planning this second trip in April. He and Sumire were studying at the same dojo with Shin Jinseo's teacher. I didn't catch the name. This plan of studying was said to have been proposed after Leo was praised in Korea last November after playing some unofficial games in a tournament there.

The translation is maybe fine to get the gist of headlines but sometimes not much else. However, I think the praise that was referred to can be found in this Japanese article: https://go.forumkaya.co.jp/korea-news/7172.html

The translation rendered it like this for me:

KBA President Han Jongjin(?) wrote:I was curious about how good he was, but he seems to be the strongest among Korean fourth-graders of the same age. You can think of him as having the ability of a sixth-grader. If he sparred with a stronger opponent, I think his skills would improve significantly. I feel like I can sense the aura of world number one 9-dan Shin Jin-seo back then.

I wonder what his Hangul name is. If we are interested in following Leo and Sumire in Korea then we need to know their Hangul names

vier · Post by **vier** » Sat Jul 27, 2024 11:57 am

kvasir wrote: I wonder what his Hangul name is. If we are interested in following Leo and Sumire in Korea then we need to know their Hangul names

Maybe Sumire is 스미레, in full 나카무라 스미레, and Fujita Reo is 후지타 레오.

John Fairbairn · Post by **John Fairbairn** » Sat Jul 27, 2024 12:20 pm

Reo is called 후지타 레오 (Huchit'a Reo) in Korean, and the teacher you are looking for is probably Han Chong-chin. He taught Sin Chin-seo at the famous Chung-am go school.

But with Reo's father rightly keeping the boy cocooned, you'll find little online except for forum chatter. I think the last significant mainstream news was in February. The boy's results are still below 50% but there are signs he may be turning the corner.

FWIW both Sumire and Reo keep saying their visits to Korea are simply because it's the Mecca for strong players. China is likewise "importing" many Korean pros to play in their leagues.

Ferran · Post by **Ferran** » Sat Jul 27, 2024 2:15 pm

John Fairbairn wrote:But with Reo's father rightly keeping the boy cocooned,

I assume you mean with regards to public exposure? Is that... a Kansai "slow living" thing? I like it, mind you, but the contrast with Nakamura's early career is striking.

Take care.

PS: FWIW, yesterday I visited my first Igo cafe. Lost one on 9H, won the other on even.

kvasir · Post by **kvasir** » Thu Aug 22, 2024 5:32 am

I saw on Kansai Kiin webpage that he has a game next week on the 28th. That means he is back from Korea. His opponent will be no other than youtube influencer and newlywed Mishima Hibiki. The playlist for her Go videos is https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... SEC6rBYdPM. It appears to consists of some games between young pros.

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