September Tournament: 19x19 DDK

[Aphelion]

I would suggest a more structured tournament setting like the L19x19 title tournament or Kuchinashi tournaments. Depending on # of players this can be round robin or some form of double elimination.

That said, I'd be willing to review and help in general regardless of the tournament structure.

[Aphelion]

The ratio idea seems good, definitely with a minimum number of games. We should settle on a reasonable number. Ten seems like a good number and would only require two matches a week.

This will lead to problems. I can see some one with a good record after 10 games would refuse to play anymore games unless he is overtaken, and a 10-0 player won't play at all.

A simple double elim / round robin structure sounds best.

[Monadology]

This will lead to problems. I can see some one with a good record after 10 games would refuse to play anymore games unless he is overtaken, and a 10-0 player won't play at all.

A simple double elim / round robin structure sounds best.

That would definitely be preferable but keithlard didn't really seem willing to organize, which was why no one had suggested it (or at least I assume that's why). The ratio or scoring system requires almost no organization.

[SinK]

I am happy to do the administrative side of things if no one else wants to. Might I suggest going with a swiss style tourney though since that way everyone gets to play every round which is a bit more inclusive than a knock out would be.

[Aphelion]

I was going to suggest swiss, but it seems like you guys will have about 8 players or so so round-robin is totally doable.

[Monadology]

I am happy to do the administrative side of things if no one else wants to. Might I suggest going with a swiss style tourney though since that way everyone gets to play every round which is a bit more inclusive than a knock out would be.

That would be great.

[MarcoRosso]

I'd be willing to help as well. Since, I'm going to be on KGS more anyway's. I suggest the round robin as well. Since it doesn't put too much pressure on players participating.

Best Regards,
MarcoRosso

[nnk]

i'm in

(every tournament needs an omega player )

ps: i would also favor a non-elliminatory system (i'm a self-confessed triple-digit-kyu, so no surprise there, eh? ), i think it's better for a "friendly" tournament, the idea is to get to play as many games as possible. personally, i'd rather play more and be on the bottom of the list, as opposed to trying to win through "calculations". next time, when we get funding for some prizes for the winner(s), we might have to rethink, but for now... just my humble opinion

[SinK]

Here's the players so far with any confusion in brackets:

kiethlard
kukula
noodley
Rafa
Monadology
SinK
psk31
Maere (may not have enough time to play)
docgnome
Mivo (? didn't actually say he/she/it was in but seemed like it from his/her/it's post)
threeve
MarcoRosso (maybe playing maybe just helping the running of things)
nnk

10-13 players

A round robin is possible with these numbers though in that case do we nigiri for black or does black automatically go to the lower ranked player?

[Maere]

I'll be away for a week in September. It makes it tough to play around 10 games in September. But if the schedule of the tournament allows to stretch for a week or so in October, I would be able to participate. Would that be alright?

A round robin is possible with these numbers though in that case do we nigiri for black or does black automatically go to the lower ranked player?

And here I come back with my question about handicap? I know ranking is somewhat inacurate at our level, but wouldn't it be frustrating for the players of 20k and below to face people 5-6 stones stronger in an even game?

[SinK]

And here I come back with my question about handicap? I know ranking is somewhat inacurate at our level, but wouldn't it be frustrating for the players of 20k and below to face people 5-6 stones stronger in an even game?

In tourneys and league games are usually not handicapped. A handicap's purpose is to make a game even (ie.50/50) which kind of defeats the object of a competition in which the you want the man who plays best to win. Besides handicaps could very well change over the course of a tourney and inaccurate handicaps could make it very unfair.

Perhaps a Swiss tourney would be fairer in that although it would fewer games at 6 or 8 games each (2 per round) the weaker players would be playing the other weaker players in the later rounds which would prevent the 15k vs 22k match ups. That are admittedly quite extreme. A quick straw poll should sort it out:

ROUND ROBIN OR SWISS TOURNEY PEOPLE? WHICH DO YOU PREFER?

[keithlard]

I'd like to stick to the format as originally described, if you don't mind - in other words minimal organisation and no limit on the number of games.

Don't let me stop you organising an alternative Swiss tourney, though - I think that's a great idea and would play in it.

What I'd like to do with this tournament is replicate as far as possible the format of the ASR league.

[Monadology]

Swiss sounds good, but I don't mind Round Robin.

[Rafa]

I pick swiss too.

[Stefany93]

Damn, make the tournament 1 game per a day in the godiccussions room. What means '' you can play as many games as you want '' - then I will play 24 hours a day and at the end of Sep I will have 3000 games played and 1000 victories - no one can beat me

Please change these stupid rules, and I will join at once. You have my word.