topazg wrote:Araban wrote:Ugh, if it's one thing the Go is far, far superior in over SC2, it's the general manner level of players. Seriously, on KGS it's considered BM to not type "thx" or "hi", and the worst I've ever been called online on a Go server was "idiot". But in SC2 it can get pretty nasty (and I'll refrain from typing out some of the things I've seen here).
This is the primary reason I've not bought the game actually. Even LiquidTLO I felt was annoying and immature despite his skill, and I have little desire to compete against people who either enjoy rubbing other people's noses in it, have some kind of crazed nerd rage when they lose, or are otherwise just rude and offensive. I know gamers have a reputation for being stuck-in-the-bedroom loners without particularly good social skills (no offense guys, I have long counted myself amongst them), but that still doesn't excuse being just blatantly rude. I want to enjoy what I do in the little spare time I have, and if it involves other people I would rather not have to deal with gratuitous insults.
It does happen sometimes in Go, I was playing on kurnik the other day, and played a 1550 rated player who had snuck 9 handicap stones under the radar, with free placement. He made a large corner shimari in all 4 corners and played tengen, and obviously thought it would be an amusingly easy victory. I got lucky a couple of times, and by 2/3 the way through the game, had taken the lead. He immediately started f-ing and c-ing at me, and after another couple of minutes just escaped. If more people were like that, I'd stop playing, but thankfully most of the Go community are a really nice bunch. I have yet to get that feeling from the TL forums or YT video broadcasts on SC2.
Yeah, it was like a 5d player playing SDK players even, with a commentator not just criticizing, but mocking the kyu players' play in front of thousands of kibitzers. I wasn't really that irked against TLO, but the commentator (I think it was Chill) for this reason.
And actually, while I did rant a bit on the general immaturity level of the SC2 players I've bumped into, I think it's much more civil than, say, CoD or Halo 3 online (links contain over 9000 expletives), so I guess it's all relative
Tooveli wrote:I've bumped into very little bad bm (though I get gg around half the time). In fact I've encountered very little serious cheese. I've yet to be six-pooled or cannon rushed (100+ games). I've played against lots of more normal cheese stuff (proxy rax, all-ins, most PvP) but I quite like it. Cheese strategies seem like legitimate attempts to win games to me. They also seem to be generally weaker than standard play and I enjoy fending them off. It's a lot easier to beat cheese in Starcraft than read out the correct answer to a joseki trick play in go.
The funniest game I've played:
PvT on Desert Oasis. My opponent sent out his first scv to build a proxy rax. I scouted with my 9 pylon probe and it just so happened that he was building the rax directly on my scouting path. I attacked the building scv with my probe and killed it. Meanwhile, he'd put down an engineering bay and a gas and (I think he was intending to do this anyway) started flying his cc over to my base to morph into a planetary fortress. It landed in my base and just sat there. I was a little confused. Checking the replay - he'd started to fly it over about 20 gas too short to actually make the planetary fortress. He proceeded to lift off and fly to a corner of the map and make me come kill him.
How...what...100+ games and no 6-pool or cannon rushes? I think that's like driving 120mph on highways from Seattle to New York and not getting a ticket
And oh, replay for that funniest game!
