What do you want to see in a Go book?

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Re: What do you want to see in a Go book?

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Helel wrote:Is there a lot of sex and violence in it? If I am to buy it I want sex and violence!

:study: well... there is a chapter about "probes" and you might also like the parts that deal with "pushing from behind" and "invasions" :lol:
I hope to see your order arrive soon :D

btw. why is this topic about sex mall of a sudden? did I post something silly?
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Re: What do you want to see in a Go book?

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A detailed look at shin fuseki. What the main ideas were at the time, what's persisted into the present. Some historical/biographical information would be interesting, but I'm thinking more of a theory book.

A look at how the opening has developed since then--have there been new unifying ideas, or have the past 40 years mostly seen minor variations on existing ideas?

I didn't know that was my answer until the third time I'd looked at this thread.

A followup to attack and defense also seems good. As does anything historical.
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Re: What do you want to see in a Go book?

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I would like to see a book that studies random fuseki where first four opening moves are played in random intersections. Title could be "The Art of Playing Random".
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A detailed look at shin fuseki. What the main ideas were at the time, what's persisted into the present. Some historical/biographical information would be interesting, but I'm thinking more of a theory book.


I've got this in the pipeline. Partly as a way of plugging gaps in the historical background to the ten-game matches I decided to start a series on famous games. The first (Shusai-Kitani), due out any time now, allowed me to do a big biography on Shusai. The second (Shusai-Karigane), already in first draft, allows me to cover the history of the various groups from Hoensha to the Nihon Ki-in. The third, only planned but I hope it might be ready by Christmas, will cover Shusai-Go and so allow me to do the history of Shin Fuseki.

I've also started a book on Go Seigen's josekis as still more background to this extremely rich era.

The ten-game match series is not forgotten. Next up is The Survivors (Go vs Hashimoto and Iwamoto).
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John Fairbairn wrote:
A detailed look at shin fuseki. What the main ideas were at the time, what's persisted into the present. Some historical/biographical information would be interesting, but I'm thinking more of a theory book.


I've got this in the pipeline. Partly as a way of plugging gaps in the historical background to the ten-game matches I decided to start a series on famous games. The first (Shusai-Kitani), due out any time now, allowed me to do a big biography on Shusai. The second (Shusai-Karigane), already in first draft, allows me to cover the history of the various groups from Hoensha to the Nihon Ki-in. The third, only planned but I hope it might be ready by Christmas, will cover Shusai-Go and so allow me to do the history of Shin Fuseki.

I've also started a book on Go Seigen's josekis as still more background to this extremely rich era.

The ten-game match series is not forgotten. Next up is The Survivors (Go vs Hashimoto and Iwamoto).


Dang, John, you're a workhorse! I'm glad to hear you have so many books planned. I assume they're selling well enough for S&S to want more. I know I've bought them all; I really enjoy them.
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Re: What do you want to see in a Go book?

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400 Hundred Years of Japanese Go is a good book but I would like to see something which goes into more details about the Edo period. Perhaps a series of books about the same thickness as 400 but each concentrating on the period of a single Meijin. I would be particularly interested in what new developments occurred during each period plus details of the personal and politic issues of the time.
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Re: What do you want to see in a Go book?

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DrStraw wrote:400 Hundred Years of Japanese Go is a good book but I would like to see something which goes into more details about the Edo period. Perhaps a series of books about the same thickness as 400 but each concentrating on the period of a single Meijin. I would be particularly interested in what new developments occurred during each period plus details of the personal and politic issues of the time.


When Invincible first came out it was announced that John Power had plans to do similar books about other classical players. Unfortunately those plans did not come to fruition. If you caould read Japanese you'd find what you want but as far as I know you'd have to look in used book stores.
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Kamakura (about Go Seigen) is new Invicible. But nowadays we have Master Play series or The Way of Creating a Thick and Strong Game from Hane Naoki is very nice book.
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gowan wrote:When Invincible first came out it was announced that John Power had plans to do similar books about other classical players. Unfortunately those plans did not come to fruition. If you caould read Japanese you'd find what you want but as far as I know you'd have to look in used book stores.


Invincible is a nice book, one of only three I did not put up for sale. But it is primarily games. I am more interested in the history, politics and development of theory, backed up only with ames to illustrate points.
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Re: What do you want to see in a Go book?

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I want to see Go Seigen's autobiography in english!! The man rocks
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Re: What do you want to see in a Go book?

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LokBuddha wrote:I want to see Go Seigen's autobiography in english!! The man rocks

There's a movie about him - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Go_Master
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palapiku wrote:
LokBuddha wrote:I want to see Go Seigen's autobiography in english!! The man rocks

There's a movie about him - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Go_Master

the movie is good, but the book would be better
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yea, i saw the movie but I prefer the book better, the movie leave me confuse and the event aren't explained very well
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Re: What do you want to see in a Go book?

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DrStraw wrote:400 Hundred Years of Japanese Go is a good book but I would like to see something which goes into more details about the Edo period. Perhaps a series of books about the same thickness as 400 but each concentrating on the period of a single Meijin. I would be particularly interested in what new developments occurred during each period plus details of the personal and politic issues of the time.


I was looking at the sample pages for 400 Years of Go in Japan and when it showed it game it used x's and Z's and w's and ='s to apparently indicate moves. Is that a common way to show games? How do you know the move order?

Scroll down to the last page: http://www.slateandshell.com/pdfs/items/SSAG001.pdf

Could someone who has this book let me know how many pages it has? Slate and Shell isn't very consistent with including page totals in its descriptions.
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Re: What do you want to see in a Go book?

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kaimat wrote:I was looking at the sample pages for 400 Years of Go in Japan and when it showed it game it used x's and Z's and w's and ='s to apparently indicate moves. Is that a common way to show games? How do you know the move order?

that's just a bad pdf file. he didn't have a font to render the text based diagram into a graphic when he created the pdf file from the document source. (and he perhaps should have just scanned in an image instead)

its not unlike the game diagrams used here on this forum using X's and O's to represent the stones on the board that get turned into graphics when surrounded by [ go ] tags

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$$ | . . O O O . . .
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$$ | . . X X X . . .
$$ | . . O O O . . .
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