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Re: Monotonous
I have three openings I'd like to play as Black. As White I have two - actually one, except my opponent plays double Komoku.
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Re: Monotonous
If I've got Black and my opponent lets me play a diagonal fuseki, I'll take it, figuring that people are less likely to be well-versed in the diagonal fuseki as they are in the Chinese.
Not that I'm well-versed in any of them....
Not that I'm well-versed in any of them....
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Re: Monotonous
At first I always played sanrensei as black, then I switched to tengen + approaching everything that wasn't a hoshi or sansan right off, and now I'm doing the orthodox because I'm sick of having no corners by middlegame.
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Re: Monotonous
I change my opening as black every few months... Currently I am playing Low-Chinese.... I figured it would be good to know since it is so popular...
I'm thinking...
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Re: Monotonous
I repeat some new themes (3-5 points, low approaches to 3-4 points) often enough to learn something about them. But I am really astonished about people playing the same opening regardless of what their opponents are doing. Especially when they play some weird openings as parallel 4-5 points.
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Re: Monotonous
My guess is that people who play, say, parallel 4-5 points have found that they can win often because their opponents are not used to such an opening and don't know what to do. I also think that people who always play openings like that care more about winning than enjoying the game, or about learning.tapir wrote:I repeat some new themes (3-5 points, low approaches to 3-4 points) often enough to learn something about them. But I am really astonished about people playing the same opening regardless of what their opponents are doing. Especially when they play some weird openings as parallel 4-5 points.
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Re: Monotonous
When my opponent plays a weird opening like that (though more commonly dual 4-6, I find, if people want to be weird), I usually copy it. I like to think this unnerves them in return, and it generally leads to enjoyable gameskirkmc wrote:My guess is that people who play, say, parallel 4-5 points have found that they can win often because their opponents are not used to such an opening and don't know what to do. I also think that people who always play openings like that care more about winning than enjoying the game, or about learning.tapir wrote:I repeat some new themes (3-5 points, low approaches to 3-4 points) often enough to learn something about them. But I am really astonished about people playing the same opening regardless of what their opponents are doing. Especially when they play some weird openings as parallel 4-5 points.
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Re: Monotonous
Seriously? You think an opponent plays moves that are likely to quickly to go outside of joseki because they care little about learning? That's the _point_ of playing unorthodoxly surely, taking things into the realm where thought and understanding are of greater value than learning joseki sequence by wrote.kirkmc wrote:My guess is that people who play, say, parallel 4-5 points have found that they can win often because their opponents are not used to such an opening and don't know what to do. I also think that people who always play openings like that care more about winning than enjoying the game, or about learning.
I play 4-5, 3-5, 6-4, more often than 3-3 and probably as often as 3-4 simply because I do enjoy the game, and I'd rather play from principles and ideas than 50 moves of theory out of a book
I played a game yesterday against a 3k where he started with dual semi-diagonal 7-5 points. It was one of the most interesting games I can remember: http://files.gokgs.com/games/2010/10/16 ... culmer.sgf
I made quite a hash of the lower right, twice, but the whole game was about trying to efficiently use what was on the board, not learning rehearsed josekis, and it was really refreshing
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Re: Monotonous
I could say somewhat sort of yea, seeing as I play the 3-5 mokuhazushi alot but then with Black my first move is always the 3-5 and thats the same for White. But then after my opponent moves this changes how my next move comes about, depending on what star-point wether it is on or to what side of the star-point they play factors in my next opening move.
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Re: Monotonous
Sanrensei with Black and Nirensei with White.
However, it's not something I intend to do forever. I just prefer to stick with one opening as a newbie. I definitely hope to experiment once/if I start getting to high (low) SDK.
However, it's not something I intend to do forever. I just prefer to stick with one opening as a newbie. I definitely hope to experiment once/if I start getting to high (low) SDK.
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Re: Monotonous
I am the same as Monadology (it's always nirensei for me, with both colours). I intend to start experimenting with different openings when (perhaps "if" would be more appropriate) I get stronger - say if I get to 5k or better - but I don't see any need to start doing wildly different things at this stage. It's not as if every game I play ends up being the same, or even particularly similar. Usually by move 10 or 15 I'm in a totally new situation for me (but then I am a relative newbie).
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Re: Monotonous
I use 3-3, 4-4, 3-4, and an occasional 3-5 as opening moves in any combination.
I do have a few josekis I like, but I'm definetly not playing the same opening over and over.
usually my opponents won't let me play the same opening every time anyway
I do have a few josekis I like, but I'm definetly not playing the same opening over and over.
usually my opponents won't let me play the same opening every time anyway
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Re: Monotonous
I play the same "types" of openings all the time (switching every few months), but I don't see the point of playing the same openings without taking my opponent's moves into account.
I also make small changes randomly to try new things, like a 3-5 or 4-5 (which I haven't tried out much to date), approach move or shimari at
, cross fuseki, etc.
I wouldn't call my openings "monotonous", but I play certain formations more consistently than not, like chinese variants and Classic Kobayashi openings.
I also make small changes randomly to try new things, like a 3-5 or 4-5 (which I haven't tried out much to date), approach move or shimari at
I wouldn't call my openings "monotonous", but I play certain formations more consistently than not, like chinese variants and Classic Kobayashi openings.