Korean Prime Minister's Cup

[hyperpape]

An update for the monolingual: Korea had 7 wins, China, Japan and the US had 6, while Ukraine, Taiwan and some others had 5. I don't know whether the ranking of 2-4 and so on were done by SOS, head to head, or some other method.

That's pretty awesome for Jie Liang--it seems much better to be in the top four based purely on wins rather than SOS.

[dankenzon]

I spent the nights over wbaduk and collected all the published games except round 6.. and one or two that transmition just fell down after 6-10 movements.
Also in one game in the last round the colors of the players were wrong.
I must say, by the way, that people who reproduce the games while played sometimes have the bad habit of analyzing the game for themselves so you see one development and in any moment, the game just turn out to something completely different.

ALL the games are already converted to .sgf

As long as I know now the tournament is over there's no problem sharing them, since the Copy-rights issues are related to live reproduction of them in other servers..

If I am wrong about, please let me know before we can share them

Dkzn

[Pyoveli]

It seems official results are still not online. One participant took the following picture of the result sheet:

http://jhuun.kapsi.fi/IMG_1084.JPG

[kamyszyn]

Final table in "european format" : http://kamyszyn.go.art.pl/kpmc2010
Probably tomorrow results should be available on EGD.

[LovroKlc]

How can this be B class? As far as I know, main time was 30 minutes, and it is only good for C class than.

[kamyszyn]

B class was EGD supervisor decision. Most likely because of this "World championship" thing (also few previous KPMC was rated as B).

[HermanHiddema]

I think B class is reasonable, because of the long byoyomi (3x30s). Although the basic time falls short, the adjusted time does qualify for B.

I think 30m + 3x30s is in fact a more relaxed tempo than 40m + 1x15s, which would qualify for B class.

[gaius]

Wow, check out Artem's performance! His only two losses were against Korea and Japan, but he won against Jiang Lie (US, 7d), Li Ryan (CA, 5d) and Liu Guyu (AU, 7d). IMO, even more impressive than Jiang Lie's 6 wins - Jiang Lie did not face ANY 7d players and lost to Artem...

But it becomes even more impressive because Artem is so young!

[hyperpape]

Yes, it's a nice one for the rules geeks, but Artem's performance looks better.

[LovroKlc]

Still this is very unlogical to me. Probably they should change the system. But I will write another post about than another day

[Javaness]

I was pretty surprised to see it as class B as well - it doesn't meet the minimum time requirement. Well, I guess it's the rating commission's perogative to make exceptions, and I gain more GoR this way, so it must be fair.

[Liisa]

Wow, check out Artem's performance! His only two losses were against Korea and Japan, but he won against Jiang Lie (US, 7d), Li Ryan (CA, 5d) and Liu Guyu (AU, 7d). IMO, even more impressive than Jiang Lie's 6 wins - Jiang Lie did not face ANY 7d players and lost to Artem...

I checked this with my Asparagus, and indeed it seems that you are right that Artem's performance was better than Jie Liang. His performance rating was about 50 better than Jie's. With one win less, this is definitely meaningful difference.

Underlying problem was that pairs were looked not just from same McMahon group, but also they tried to find pairs where soses were as close as possible. In practice this means that because Jie was paired downwards on round three Jie got lowest SOS and therefore Jie was paired on rounds 4, 5 and 6 one group downwards. This certainly did not help Jie's SOS. In practice Jie, played the tournament like Jie had lost on round 2. Even in round 7 where there was even number of players in highest group, Jie got weakest possible opponent.

I have no idea why the pimp chose to pair this way, but this method is way off from my pimp-book.

[gaius]

I have no idea why the pimp chose to pair this way, but this method is way off from my pimp-book.

Wait. The "pimp"? That is an, uuhm, interesting word for a tournament organiser!

Also, where can I buy this "pimp-book" you mention? You see... I know this guy... he could give you a real good price...

[Stefany93]

Artem won! I am starting to get scared of that guy. Seems he has a huge potential.

[LovroKlc]

Artem won! I am starting to get scared of that guy. Seems he has a huge potential.

and what exactly did he win. in most tournament, people who have 5/7 dont really win the title...