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by tj86430 Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:11 pm
White suggestion:
$$Wc
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$WcNo explanation needed
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by Chew Terr Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:37 am
$$Bc
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$BcObviously, we want to move out with this group, ideally while keeping pressure on both sides. TJ, your move has the right general idea, but I don't like leaning on black (and forcing them to press against our right) unless we have to lean for strength. At the moment, we're loose and flexible enough, I think we're better off getting out lightly like this. Either move would be okay, but I think this is a little better. The diagonal at 'a' is also fine, but it seems to put a bit less pressure/is less urgent for black to respond. Since the peep doesn't work well enough for black, I think this is the best of the options.
$$Bc
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$BcSee, no peep.
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by topazg Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:52 am
@chew
Not disagreeing with your main choice, but are you sure there's no peep?
$$Bc
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$BcJust sayin'
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by Redundant Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:21 pm
Suggestion:
Um ... tj seems like he's gotten the only move here, so I'll just recommend something wacky and tenuki.
$$Wcm22 move 23
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by topazg Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:37 pm
$$Wcm24 move 24
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm24 move 24To team and observers:
See our last move comments
Thanks all for the suggestions, the thin-ness is why I rejected Chew's idea, and both others would have chosen this move.
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by Jordus Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:09 am
Black Internal Chat:
$$Wcm24 move 24
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm24 move 24Some thoughts.... If we are planning to run the group I think a straight attachment at a might be best... trying to jump allows white to cut... if we want to try to keep the group alive and take the corner I think playing (b) forces white to play (z) which allows us to reinforce (b) or play (c) and create a very big base for our group...
however, playing (a) allows us the possibility of cutting or peeking at (y) which outs whites side group into jeopardy...
Anyways... Just some late night thoughts...
I'm thinking...
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by Jordus Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:06 am
Black Internal Chat
$$Bcm
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$BcmOk... saw this too... If white responds with
to the peep at
black makes a good run out by making a tigers mouth with
I'm thinking...
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by Joaz Banbeck Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:37 pm
Jordus wrote: Black Internal Chat
$$Bcm
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$BcmOk... saw this too... If white responds with
to the peep at
black makes a good run out by making a tigers mouth with
Black internal chat:
But what if they don't answer the peep?
$$Bcm
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by Jedo Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:16 pm
Black suggestion
$$Wcm24 move 24
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm24 move 24Nothing too interesting to say here. I was looking at the variations, and I don't see any way that we can get away with haneing, as our shape is just too weak. Assuming white extends next turn though, I plan on cutting:
$$Wcm24 move 24
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm24 move 24I would be fine with this.
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by fwiffo Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:07 pm
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by Jordus Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:02 pm
Black Suggestion:
$$Bcm25 move 25
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm25 move 25I already had Jedo's suggestion as one of my possible moves... so of course I like it. But here is something different for an extra choice...... White will likely respond with a or b..
If white plays (a)......
$$Bcm25 move 25
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm25 move 25If White plays (b) (other variations can happen...) ...
$$Bcm25 move 25
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm25 move 25
I'm thinking...
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by Joaz Banbeck Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:43 pm
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$$Wcm24 move 24
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm24 move 24It is forced. And everybody likes it.
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by tj86430 Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:50 am
White suggestion:
$$Wcm24 move 24
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm24 move 24So far this has progressed as our esteemed captain professed, so I will continue to suggest what he said, and I will leave it to the more accomplished team members to come up with other ideas, lazy as I am.
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by Chew Terr Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:56 am
Go team white!
$$Wcm24 move 24
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wcm24 move 24Buys some stability, asks black about eyes, while threatening to cut off the lone black stone and take a largish corner.
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by Redundant Thu Dec 16, 2010 12:26 pm
WIC:
Suggestion
Took me a bit, but I'll suggest this. It's thinner than tj's suggestion, but also more ambitious. The cut isn't an immediate concern, but I'll give Topaz the chance to evaluate the aji.
$$Wcm24 move 24
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to the peep at 
black makes a good run out by making a tigers mouth with 
