ethanb wrote:hiyayang wrote:@ethanb:
How does white respond to this black move:
$$Bc
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 1 O X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 3 2 . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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[go]$$Bc
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 1 O X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 3 2 . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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By throwing the board, I think. That is a NICE tesuji.
And that would make it an interesting tsumego too.
For those who are wondering about the status of the white corner after

, here is a diagram to show it is dead:
$$Bc white dies
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 1 O X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 7 O O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | 4 5 . O X X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 3 2 . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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[go]$$Bc white dies
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 1 O X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 7 O O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | 4 5 . O X X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 3 2 . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
It would not work if black switched the order of

and

above, like this:
$$Bc white lives
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 1 O X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 6 4 O O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . 3 . O X X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 5 2 7 O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 8 9 0 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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[go]$$Bc white lives
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 1 O X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 6 4 O O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . 3 . O X X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 5 2 7 O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 8 9 0 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
White group has enough outside liberties to kill the black inside, even though the latter has an eye. Note that black

at

doesn't connect. (If black plays

instead of

, white plays

and the result would be the same as the diagram below.)
Other black moves like the

below would also allow white to live:
$$Bc white lives
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 9 X X X . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 1 O X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 7 6 O O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | 3 5 8 O X X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 4 2 . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 0 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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[go]$$Bc white lives
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 9 X X X . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 1 O X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 7 6 O O . O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | 3 5 8 O X X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 4 2 . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 0 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
When white corner lacks outside liberties (e.g., the 'a' spots are taken by black),

below is another way to kill white corner, but it doesn't work in this case (because

doesn't put itself in atari):
$$Bc white lives
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 1 O X O a O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 7 6 O O a O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | 9 5 0 O X X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 8 2 . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 4 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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[go]$$Bc white lives
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 1 O X O a O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 7 6 O O a O X . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | 9 5 0 O X X . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 8 2 . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 4 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]