Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)

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Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)

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Per my last analysis:
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[go]$$Bc Move 118 W52 B53
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X . . O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X . O O X . . |
$$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . O O . X O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . |
$$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O W . |
$$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X O . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)

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I approve.

To observers:
This is happening way too fast. Somebody has misread. I don't think that is us.
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Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)

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Approved.
Joaz is probably right that they have not read this all the way to the end, but right now at least, it's unbranched, good or bad, they can't avoid these moves
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Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)

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Trigger for after Gresil's play:
If it is S8, I approve.
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Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)

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Trigger for Gresil's play:

If S8, then I approve.


To observers:

I believe I will have to change the next 2 moves.
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Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bc Move 119 W52 B53
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X . . O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X . O O X . . |
$$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . O O . X O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . |
$$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X O . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O B . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Still the only move. This seems to be leading to quite a liberty-gibet.
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Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)

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I took the liberty, no pun intended, of checking the triggers and it's suddenly Chew's turn.
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Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bc Move 120 W52 B53
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X . . O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X . O O X . . |
$$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . O O . X O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . |
$$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X O . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . W . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)

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I approve.

To observers:
Black has as many liberties as they are ever going to get. There are now three posibilities for black:

1) Start a liberties race against the upper white group.
If they start this, the loser of the race probably has to resign.

2) Start a liberties race against the right side white group.
Again, the loser of the race probably resigns.

3) Move once more along the side.
This crawling along the side does not gain any liberties for them after we hane. It is aji keshi. But it does offer possibilities of a ko.
So if black plays it, they are conceding that neither 1 nor 2 works, and that some kind of ko is the best that they can do.


If Violence lets 1 or 2 happen, the game is over quickly. If he goes for 3 and makes us concede our left side group to a ko threat, then the play will suddenly switch to to the lower left corner. If he goes for 3 but we are able to save our left side group, but concede one of our smaller groups, then we are ahead enough for an easy win.
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Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)

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I Approve
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Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)

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I created a sgf of this game and noticed two things. The first one is pretty superficial, but blacks next move is 125 not 121.
The other thing is that my prisoner count differs from yours. After double checking I found it to be move 107 where Violence deducted 2 black prisoners instead of one. The actual count should be B:54 W:52.

Upon request I edited the post to include the sgf. It includes the moves up to 124 (including the ones from GD) and the changes the big brothers made. I don't know how to change the prisoner count, so they are annotated in the comments.

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Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)

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Thanks Mnemonic! Is the SGF up somewhere?
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Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)

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Much obliged. What the hell was I thinking at 33? The reclining man here now is not the reclining man of yesterday.
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Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)

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Thanks, Mnemonic! I was afraid that the GD portion might be permanently lost.
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Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)

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It's Gresil's turn next, right?
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