Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)

Violence · Post by **Violence** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 5:16 pm

I think he knows that, he's probably just reading.

jts · Post by **jts** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:02 am

Gresil · Post by **Gresil** » Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:15 am

Sorry for the delay. I've been got by a virus and I can't bring myself to focus on reading this before the fever goes down.

Gresil · Post by **Gresil** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:32 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc Move 121 W52 B53 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X . . O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X . O O X . . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . O O . X O . . | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O O . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X O . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . B . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I can't read any variation to a sufficient depth, but I suppose this gets us the required liberties. I don't see an immediate refutation.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc Move 121 W52 B53 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X . . O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X . O O X . . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . O O . X O . . | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X 6 . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O O . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X O . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X 5 | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X 4 | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O 2 3 | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

fills.

at T9 doesn't seem to do any better.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc Move 121 W52 B53 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X . . O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X . O O X . . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . O O . X O . . | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X 5 | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O 3 | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X 6 . 4 | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O O . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X O 7 | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O 1 8 | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This fails.

B S7 I can't read at all.

daniel_the_smith · Post by **daniel_the_smith** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:20 am

emeraldemon · Post by **emeraldemon** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:38 am

@Violence

Post by **Joaz Banbeck** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:04 pm

To observers( and Gresil too ):

I don't think that the two elder brothers will allow this:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X . . O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X . O O X . . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . O O . X O . . | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O O . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X O 5 | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X 4 | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X 3 | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O 1 2 | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . B . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X . . O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X . O O X . . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . O O . X O . . | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X 2 . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O O . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X O O | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X X | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X 1 | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . 4 X 3 | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . 6 . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

To observers:

daniel_the_smith · Post by **daniel_the_smith** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:11 pm

Gresil wrote:
$$Bc Move 121 W52 B53
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$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X . . O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X . O O X . . |
$$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . O O . X O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . |
$$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X 6 . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O O . |
$$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X O . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X 5 |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X 4 |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O 2 3 |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------

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[go]$$Bc Move 121 W52 B53 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X . . O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X . O O X . . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . O O . X O . . | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X 6 . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O O . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X O . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X 5 | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X 4 | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O 2 3 | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

If for no other reason, this is wrong because :w6:

nets white an extra liberty (white can make an eye and we have to approach from both sides). If we play this way we have to push there first. If we push there first, though, it's clear that white can capture us directly.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc Move 121 W52 B53 $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X O . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O O . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X O . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X X | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X a | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X a | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X a | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . O O O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X a |[/go]

Next I just want to say that this pattern is terrible for getting liberties, because the points marked 'a' are NOT liberties, black must fill them in (if we had an eye it would make them approach moves white would have to play, as we could give up our tail. But we don't so they aren't).

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm8 13 fills $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X . . O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X . O O X . . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . O O . X O . . | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X O . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O O . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X O 5 | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X X | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X X | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . 1 X 3 | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 4 | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . 7 . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Finally, starting from Gresil's desired diagram, white captures us directly like this.

I think the important thing to know is that you can't get liberties like this. Next I will read out if white can hane after we play the extension. I didn't think so before, and Violence let us play this, so I still don't think so, but I should check first.

Violence · Post by **Violence** » Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:21 pm

I'd rather not post the actual sequences just yet, it spoils the surprise, I think.

I think I can at least show why I thought we were going to win, and why I think this doesn't work anymore.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc Move 121 W52 B53 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . 8 7 0 . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . 4 1 6 . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X . 5 O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X . O O X . . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X 9 O O 2 X O 3 . | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O O . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X O . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I'm sure we can all read this as 4 liberties to 3, in our favor. That's what prompted my declaration of victory.

You'll have to excuse me for the crappy reading, as it was made 21 moves ago, and it's pretty easy to mess up when you're looking ahead too deeply.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc 98B W46 B50 The position that I read from. $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . . . . O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X . O O X . . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . . W . X O . . | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X . X X . . | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X C . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O . . . . . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O . . . , . . . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc Move 121 W52 B53 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . 8 7 0 . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . 2 1 6 . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X 5 3 O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X 4 O O X . . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . O O . X O a . | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O O . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X O . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Of course, my sequence fails because of the simple suji of W4, fixing white's shape and creating a liberty problem at a.

However, I've done a lot of reading on this, and I think this fight won't end the game. I have a few tesuji prepared, and I can't see any holes in my sequences, so let's hope for the best here.

I think, worst case scenario, this will turn into a short ko that we will win, and then both colors will make life on the top side, with us ending in gote. The S13 group should be dead, but with white sente and lots of potential, I think the game will continue. Also, the outcome may result in us being behind on correction points.

In the best case scenario, white slips up and dies in a fire everywhere and black revels in victory. Of course, I have faith that Shapenaji has read at least as far as I have and is already making plans for his upcoming play on the bottom side.

At the very least, I hope we can come out of this with some correctional point advantage.

Unfortunately, not to sound arrogant, but the sequences I have in mind are probably beyond Daniel's level.

But... they're also probably beyond Joaz's too. Hum...

daniel_the_smith · Post by **daniel_the_smith** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 2:44 pm

Rejected...

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc Move 120 W54 B53 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X . . O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X . O O X . . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . O O . X O . . | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O O . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X O . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O B . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . C . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I expect this. White has to play an approach move, so we win the race.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc Move 120 W52 B53 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X . . O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X . O O X . . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . O O . X O . . | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O 8 | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X 6 7 . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O O . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X O . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O B . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . 3 1 4 | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . 5 . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I think this, which was what I expected originally, is actually a ko.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc Move 120 W52 B53 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X . . O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X . O O X . . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . O O . X O . . | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X 8 9 . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O O a | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X O 0 | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X b | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O B . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . 3 2 1 6 | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . 4 5 . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O 7 . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Now I'm a little confused, though, because tabemasu in another thread thought white was ahead... if we capture all this I have a hard time seeing that... Maybe I misread something? Wouldn't be the first time...

Violence · Post by **Violence** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:24 am

Rejected.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc Move 120 W55 B53 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . B . . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X . . O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X . O O X . . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . O O . X O . . | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O O . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X O . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O C . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . C . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Post by **Joaz Banbeck** » Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:21 am

To observers:

Website · Post by **Chew Terr** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:07 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc Move 122 W55 B53 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X . . O X X . . | $$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X . O O X . . | $$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . O O . X O W . | $$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X . | $$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X O O . | $$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X O . | $$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O C . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . C . | $$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

shapenaji · Post by **shapenaji** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:16 am

daniel_the_smith · Post by **daniel_the_smith** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:51 am

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