28. Shaddy (1d) vs. Marcus (4k)

Shaddy · Post by **Shaddy** » Tue May 04, 2010 8:55 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm32 Move: 32 - Black Prisoners: 0 - White Prisoners: 0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 X . X X . . | $$ | . . X , O . . . . O . . . O . , . . . | $$ | . . O . O . X . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Attach, hane

topazg · Post by **topazg** » Tue May 04, 2010 9:00 am

This feels like an error to me because of the aji at the bottom - why not just extend when you're already on the 4th line?

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm32 Moves 32-35 - Black Prisoners: 0 - White Prisoners: 0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 X . X X . . | $$ | . . X , O . . . . O . . . O . , . . . | $$ | . . O . O . X . . . . . . . 4 O 2 . . | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Marcus · Post by **Marcus** » Tue May 04, 2010 6:21 pm

While I continue to think upon this move, I'd like to take a moment to say I'm truly enjoying this game. I hope my opponent is enjoying himself as well.

unkx80 · Post by **unkx80** » Wed May 05, 2010 2:22 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm23 Move: 23 - Black Prisoners: 0 - White Prisoners: 0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X , O . . . . O . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . O . O . X . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I think

is not the correct time to tenuki. Minimally, black should consider jumping out here to get out.

However, see also magicwand's comment.

Bill Spight · Post by **Bill Spight** » Wed May 05, 2010 6:32 am

Here is another thought:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm23 Move: 23 - Black Prisoners: 0 - White Prisoners: 0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . 1 X , O . . . . O . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . O 2 O 3 X . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

White has bad shape and 1/2 eye.

Marcus · Post by **Marcus** » Wed May 05, 2010 8:02 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm33 Move: 33 - Black Prisoners: 0 - White Prisoners: 0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X X . . | $$ | . . X , O . . . . O . . . O 1 , . . . | $$ | . . O . O . X . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

My head hurts. This is my usual problem in long games: I think myself into paralysis.

I'm going to go with this move, expecting the following:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm33 Aji Keshi? $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X X . . | $$ | . . X , O . . . . O . . . O 1 , . . . | $$ | . . O . O . X . . . . . . . 2 O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Is this a waste of aji? I'll have to come back after the game and review.

I still can't think of much to add for beginners. Please feel free to ask questions.

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Wed May 05, 2010 8:25 am

$$Bcm33 Aji Keshi?
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . X , O . . . . O . . 4 O 1 , . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . X . . . . . . . 2 O . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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[go]$$Bcm33 Aji Keshi? $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . 5 . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X X . . | $$ | . . X , O . . . . O . . 4 O 1 , . . . | $$ | . . O . O . X . . . . . . . 2 O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Is this a waste of aji? I'll have to come back after the game and review.

answer is locally yes it is a waste of aji but it might be one of the way to play if you can have the variation above. (my opinion)

Shaddy · Post by **Shaddy** » Wed May 05, 2010 11:04 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm34 Move: 34 - Black Prisoners: 0 - White Prisoners: 0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X X . . | $$ | . . X , O . . . . O . . . O X , . . . | $$ | . . O . O . X . . . . . . . 1 O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

No other response is possible.

Marcus · Post by **Marcus** » Wed May 05, 2010 11:11 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm35 Move: 35 - Black Prisoners: 0 - White Prisoners: 0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X X . . | $$ | . . X , O . . . . O . . . O X , . . . | $$ | . . O . O . X . . . . . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Shaddy · Post by **Shaddy** » Thu May 06, 2010 10:43 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm36 Move: 36 - Black Prisoners: 0 - White Prisoners: 0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X X . . | $$ | . . X , O . . . . O . . 1 O X , . . . | $$ | . . O . O . X . . . . . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Marcus · Post by **Marcus** » Thu May 06, 2010 11:29 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm37 Move: 37 - Black Prisoners: 0 - White Prisoners: 0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . 1 . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X X . . | $$ | . . X , O . . . . O . . O O X , . . . | $$ | . . O . O . X . . . . . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Here is where my (sometimes spotty) memory for positions makes me try new things. I follow all the Malkovich games being played, and I tend to think about the different comments by players and observers, including suggested moves. So, I've recognized a position here:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm37 Very bad, right? $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . # . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . W . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X W . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . W . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X X . . | $$ | . . X , O . . . . O . . O O X , . . . | $$ | . . O . O . X . . . . . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Some may remember a position like this in Malkovich #21 between wms and Magicwand. In that position, wms played :bs:

to numerous moans and groans from the kibitzers. I probably wouldn't even mention it, as I also agree that it's a bad move, except that Bill Spight suggested a move that I have never thought about. I think it was something like this:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm37 Does this work? $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . 1 . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . W . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X W . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . W . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X X . . | $$ | . . X , O . . . . O . . O O X , . . . | $$ | . . O . O . X . . . . . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I'm not entirely sure, since the thread on GD is currently inaccessible, but I think I remember this as Bill's suggestion. Also, wms had a closer grip on the corner, and I'm not sure if that makes a difference or not as to the viability of this type of move. I've tried to read through a bit ...

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 Possible continuation? $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . 8 . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . 6 1 . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 . . 4 . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 2 W . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . 3 X X W . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . W . . | $$ | . . . . . . b . . . . . O X . X X . . | $$ | . . X , O . . . . O . . O O X , . . . | $$ | . . O 0 O 9 X . . . . . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . . . a . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This is what I first thought out, heavily based on some common shapes that stem from the Kobayashi Fuseki. :w4:

,

,

are all tentative, but I'll give my reasons why I think White might play this way:

:w4:

: If Black were to play here, more room can be made for the lone Black stone. When White connects, Black can then play R12 and attack the next White stone and make some good room on the right side for at least one eye.

:w6:

: I admit, this is purely because I've played Kobayashi Opening so much. I suppose :w6:

played at

instead would be fine for White, though I don't like the cut.

:w8:

: This reaches to strengthen the lone :white:

at R12. I don't know if that's even a correct idea.

After Black gets out like this, I go back to settle the lower left. With the center access I would have gotten, I suspect settling with life at a is the correct way to settle that group. I know jumping out at b puts more pressure on White's group in that corner, but it also forces White to attack my left side. I want to strengthen that side before I start driving White against it.

This must be my most insane and unlikely to work move yet. I'm basically playing a move because I saw a similar move suggested in a different game. Well, you can't learn unless you try!

Shaddy · Post by **Shaddy** » Fri May 07, 2010 9:24 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm38 Move: 38 - Black Prisoners: 0 - White Prisoners: 0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 O . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X X . . | $$ | . . X , O . . . . O . . O O X , . . . | $$ | . . O . O . X . . . . . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Marcus · Post by **Marcus** » Fri May 07, 2010 10:45 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm39 Move: 39 - Black Prisoners: 0 - White Prisoners: 0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . 1 X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X X . . | $$ | . . X , O . . . . O . . O O X , . . . | $$ | . . O . O . X . . . . . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Shaddy · Post by **Shaddy** » Sat May 08, 2010 6:56 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm40 Move: 40 - Black Prisoners: 0 - White Prisoners: 0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . 1 X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X X . . | $$ | . . X , O . . . . O . . O O X , . . . | $$ | . . O . O . X . . . . . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Marcus · Post by **Marcus** » Sat May 08, 2010 7:07 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm41 Move: 41 - Black Prisoners: 0 - White Prisoners: 0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X X . . | $$ | . . X , O . . . . O . . O O X , . . . | $$ | . . O . O . X . . . . . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This is too big not to take. White can't possibly ignore this. If White allows me to cut, I con settle my two groups on the right easily.

I'm expecting the following:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm41 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . 0 . . . . | $$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . X . . 4 8 . | $$ | . . X , . O . . . , . . . . . X 5 6 . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 7 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . a O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O 2 . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X X . . | $$ | . . X , O . . . . O . . O O X , . . . | $$ | . . O . O . X . . . . . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

With a, I trade the corner for a solid group on the right.

Leaves me with two groups for Black to attack ... my one eyed group running for the center in the lower right, and my unfinished stones in the lower left.

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28. Shaddy (1d) vs. Marcus (4k)

Re: Malkovich #28 - Shaddy (W, 1d) vs Marcus (B, 4k) - 0H -4

Re: Malkovich #28 - Shaddy (W, 1d) vs Marcus (B, 4k) - 0H -4

Re: Malkovich #28 - Shaddy (W, 1d) vs Marcus (B, 4k) - 0H -4

Re: Malkovich #28 - Shaddy (W, 1d) vs Marcus (B, 4k) - 0H -4

Re: Malkovich #28 - Shaddy (W, 1d) vs Marcus (B, 4k) - 0H -4

Re: Malkovich #28 - Shaddy (W, 1d) vs Marcus (B, 4k) - 0H -4

Re: Malkovich #28 - Shaddy (W, 1d) vs Marcus (B, 4k) - 0H -4

Re: Malkovich #28 - Shaddy (W, 1d) vs Marcus (B, 4k) - 0H -4

Re: Malkovich #28 - Shaddy (W, 1d) vs Marcus (B, 4k) - 0H -4

Re: Malkovich #28 - Shaddy (W, 1d) vs Marcus (B, 4k) - 0H -4

Re: Malkovich #28 - Shaddy (W, 1d) vs Marcus (B, 4k) - 0H -4

Re: Malkovich #28 - Shaddy (W, 1d) vs Marcus (B, 4k) - 0H -4

Re: Malkovich #28 - Shaddy (W, 1d) vs Marcus (B, 4k) - 0H -4

Re: Malkovich #28 - Shaddy (W, 1d) vs Marcus (B, 4k) - 0H -4

Re: Malkovich #28 - Shaddy (W, 1d) vs Marcus (B, 4k) - 0H -4