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Re: 98. Araban vs. Magicwand

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm81 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . X O . . . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . X . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . X . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . 6 . . . . . X . X . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . X X , O X X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X . . . . O . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

edit: i have edited black captured stone to 1 from 0
his intension is too profound for me. (personally it seems ajikeshi to me)
i will play my first instinct and see what he does.
i dont see how that will make any difference.
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Re: 98. Araban vs. Magicwand

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@Magicwand:
I'm really enjoying your comments
:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:
Help make L19 more organized. Make an index: https://lifein19x19.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=5207
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Re: 98. Araban vs. Magicwand

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm81 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . X O . . . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . X . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . X . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . 7 . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . X X , O X X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X . . . . O . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Thanks for updating prisoner count MW, I forgot about it.
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[go]$$Bc Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . X O . . . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . X . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . X . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O 1 . . . 3 a . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . 2 . . . . . X . X . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . X X , O X X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X . . . . O . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
The :b1: :w2: exchange was in preparation for :b3: . :b3: is an active move that tries to make both groups safe, but it leaves cuts open. This will mean I need to fight for my right to party settle both groups. The :b1: :w2: exchange alleviates some of the cutting problems; specifically, to protect :b3: . He will probably cut at 'a' next.
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Re: 98. Araban vs. Magicwand

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I was staring at this move too, but obviously with none of the reading Araban had. It just 'looks good'
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Re: 98. Araban vs. Magicwand

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Yes, Cloud, if it were me, I would've sac'd the corner for the attack. I think it's black's best chance personally.

I mean, I could just be psychotic, but who wouldn't enjoy it?
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Re: 98. Araban vs. Magicwand

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm81 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . X O . . . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . X . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . X . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X 8 . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . X X , O X X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X . . . . O . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i still dont understand the intension of the ajikeshi exchange.
there is no way he can avoid the cut..
i still waiting for him to show me something i didnt see but i dont think there is any..
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Re: 98. Araban vs. Magicwand

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Nice play by Sol, the game will be turned around if MW is not careful
For obs: You will see soon enough =)
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Re: 98. Araban vs. Magicwand

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm81 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . X O . . . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . X . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . X . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X O . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . 9 X . X . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . X X , O X X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X . . . . O . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm81 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . X O . . . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . X . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . X . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X O . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . 0 X X . X . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . X X , O X X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X . . . . O . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 98. Araban vs. Magicwand

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to save the time...if you atari i will connect.
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[go]$$Bcm91 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . X O . . . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . X . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . X . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X O 1 . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . W X X . X . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . X X , O X X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X . . . . O . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

below is a basic reading i did so far.
is he trying to kill me? i dont think he can.
he has too many weakness to do any decent attack on my group.
i am thinking his desperation forced him to chase a rainbow.

fyi: my weakness at 'a' is well covered by his weakness of 'b'
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm91 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . X O . . . . O . . X . 6 . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . X . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . X . O . 4 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 2 . . 3 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X O 1 . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . W X X . X 5 O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . X X a O X X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X b . . . O . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm91 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . X O . . . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . X . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . X . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X O . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O X X . X . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . X X , O X X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X . . . . O . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

The suggestion to atari by MW achieves little for me while letting him connect.
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This game is getting SWEET.
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm91 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . X O . . . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . X . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . X . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X O 2 . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O X X . X . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . X X , O X X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X . . . . O . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 98. Araban vs. Magicwand

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Fredrik wrote:
Nice play by Sol, the game will be turned around if MW is not careful
For obs: You will see soon enough =)


Still an enigma to me... No point in hiding my comment, I guess...
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Re: 98. Araban vs. Magicwand

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For observers:
MW mentioned in passing that he has 'a' as shown below. It protects the cut at 'b'.

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . X O . . . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . X . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . X . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X O O . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O X X . X . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . X X b O X X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X a . . . O . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

As long as 'b' is empty, the worst that white can do it this:

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . X O . . . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . O . . . . . , X O . |
$$ | . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . X . . X . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . X . X . X . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X O O . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O X X . X . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . 3 2 X X , O X X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X 1 . . . O . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . 4 . . . . O . X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

...which goes nowhere for white like this:

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[go]$$Wc
$$ | . . . O . . . O X X . X . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . 3 2 X X , O X X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X 1 6 . . O . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . 4 7 5 8 . O . X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

...or this:

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[go]$$Wc
$$ | . . . O . . . O X X . X . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . 3 2 X X , O X X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X 1 5 6 . O . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . 4 . 8 7 . O . X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



But if Araban tries the cut, before or after :w1:, it looks like this:

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[go]$$Wc
$$ | . . . O . . . O X X . X . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . 3 2 X X B O X X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X . X 1 5 . . O . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . 4 . . . . O . X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

...or this:

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[go]$$Wc C and d are miai
$$ | . . . O . . . O X X . X . O X O . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O O O X . X . . . O X . |
$$ | . . O O . 3 2 X X B O X X . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X X 5 X 1 6 . . O . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . 7 . 4 . c . O . X O X X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . d O X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


In conclusion, black can't cut at K4.
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