"High" vs "Low" Kyu

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Who is stronger?

A high kyu
27
36%
A low kyu
32
43%
I'm always weaker when I'm high
16
21%
 
Total votes: 75

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Re: "High" vs "Low" Kyu

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Must understand this to be one dan.

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Re: "High" vs "Low" Kyu

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Dusk Eagle wrote:Must understand this to be one dan.

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That was about being 1p and not 1d if I recall correctly.
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Re: "High" vs "Low" Kyu

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IMO, high kyu is strong kyu, and I think korean and japanese words agree with me:

고급 (高級): advanced/high ranking or grade; 고/高 can be thought of as high, and 급/級 is kyu.

Guess how you might write the same word in Japanese: 高級(koukyuu), which also means high class or high grade.

I do not think there is ambiguity. High sdks are strong sdks (well, weaker than dans, presumably :-)).
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shimari wrote:This topic drives me nuts, repeatedly. I am always in the position of needing to get trophies, and select national title holders, and what, exactly, to name them is always a problem. There seems to be no consensus, so I end up with something lame like "5-10 kyu division". Personally, I always feel that a high player is stronger than a weak player. So 5 kyu should be stronger than 20 kyu.


How about using flights? E. g., 1 - 4 kyu = Kyu Championship Flight, 5 - 10 kyu = Kyu First Flight, 11 - 15 kyu = Kyu Second Flight, etc.? :)
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Re: "High" vs "Low" Kyu

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Bill Spight wrote:
shimari wrote:This topic drives me nuts, repeatedly. I am always in the position of needing to get trophies, and select national title holders, and what, exactly, to name them is always a problem. There seems to be no consensus, so I end up with something lame like "5-10 kyu division". Personally, I always feel that a high player is stronger than a weak player. So 5 kyu should be stronger than 20 kyu.


How about using flights? E. g., 1 - 4 kyu = Kyu Championship Flight, 5 - 10 kyu = Kyu First Flight, 11 - 15 kyu = Kyu Second Flight, etc.? :)


I've always liked belt systems, such as those in martial arts. In most martial arts, your first dan is your first Black belt rank. So how about something like:

1d+ = Black class
1-4k = Brown class
5-8k = Blue class
9-12k = Green class
13-16k = Yellow class
17-20k = Orange class
21-25k = Red class
26-30k = White class

Or whatever fits into the grade of players you have :)
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Didn't the ancient Chinese have a system of rating players from 1 (complete beginner) to 9 (master) I always thought that system would go well with any kind of belt system.
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Yea. Thats called 'dan'.
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Kirby wrote:Guess how you might write the same word in Japanese: 高級(koukyuu), which also means high class or high grade.


You will usually see 上級、中級、下級.
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Re: "High" vs "Low" Kyu

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oren wrote:
Kirby wrote:Guess how you might write the same word in Japanese: 高級(koukyuu), which also means high class or high grade.


You will usually see 上級、中級、下級.


Perhaps, but this does not take away from the fact that 高級 is still a word that can provide us insight into whether "high kyu" means strong or weak. I do not think you can get that much closer to "high kyu" (the expression that we are discussing in this thread) than 高 and 級.

By the way, when I said, "same word", I mean the word using the same Chinese characters - not necessarily a word that has identical frequency in Japanese as it does in Korean.

I would consider 上級 to be more like "upper kyu", which is close to what we are discussing - But IMO 高級 is closer to "high kyu".

In either case, "high kyu" should suggest a player that is stronger than a "low kyu".
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