99. topazg vs sevis

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Re: 99. topazg vs sevis

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I like the possibility to attack both the top and bottom from here. This makes it much easier for my group to eventually get out, while threatening to cut white's apart, or to block him white the centre.
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Re: 99. topazg vs sevis

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$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . 2 3 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O . X X . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . |
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I really don't want him pushing over the top. This gives this group a lot of breathing space, and let's my take my initiative elsewhere.
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Re: 99. topazg vs sevis

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H4 looks big, but I don't think it's the biggest. Perhaps H8 would be better? No, that thinking is still far too local. I think the top-right corner is where the fighting is going to be now. I think I should complete the joseki and play P14, it seems like the thing white would abuse if left unchecked. It's gote, but could still be worth it. Need to think.


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$$ | . X O X X . . X . , e . . O g X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . a X O . . |
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$$ | . O O . . X . j . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . i . k . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O b . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . o . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . O O h n , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . m . . |
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I think I got the most important ones.

a is gote, but stops white from doing nasty stuff there. Seeing as I expect white to play somewhere around there, anyway, it could perhaps be considered urgent.
b is gote and very small, but does limit white. I think i would be better for this, though.
c is the tengen, which in my experience is fairly balanced, but doesn't seem to help anything in particular at this moment. White won't play there, and it leaves too much area to really be considered to claim any territory.
d gets me some territory on the right, but I don't think it's that urgent. R12 seems fine for now, and while the territory may be tasty, I don't think it's the biggest move.
e extends my left a little, but it doesn't look like it achieves much in terms of hindering white. l is better if I want to approach, while p is better if I want to lock white in.
f threatens that I'd be the one to get the corner. I'm not sure why that would be a big threat, but it seems that it is often considered such. I don't think it's more than eight points difference even if white ignores it once, which doesn't seem like enough.
g makes a nice shape, but a white play at a wouldn't be very nice.
h threatens to cut, and I think I could get it to work nicely, but I don't think I'd actually manage to cut through. I think it could make six or so points difference.
i makes a nice shape, makes a connection somewhat likely, and makes it harder for white to group up-left. White doesn't need to grow up-left, though, there's plenty of nice territory elsewhere...
j is a less-nice i that doesn't make as nice a shape, but works with F9. I think white would simply cut through eventually, and ignore it for now, though.
k caps, and asks to be cut... This simply pushes white to the right, though, instead of stopping it.
l approaches the corner, perhaps denying white some territory on the top... I don't like it much, though, I think it can be ignored. Or capped. Probably capped.
m is a move I really like, although it doesn't get me anything new. On the other hand, it does make a 3-3 invasion impossible, and generally gives me hope that white won't be able to steal all that much of that part.
n is an h that makes bad shape, and generally isn't as good.
o doesn't get me much, but does decrease the chance of white growing to the right. I'd end up with two small moyos, though, which I don't like, because I don't expect to keep much of any moyos I might get.
p grows my moyo in gote, in a direction from which an attack is unlikely.
q is certainly sente (I hope...), but doesn't do much else. I think I'll keep it around -- it's way too small for white, but is a good ko threat for me.
r makes a nice shape, but can be cut off easily. I don't like it.

Perhaps I'm overthinking this? Nahhh.

Going to reconsider the best options soon: probably a, d, i, m, o, g and f. Oh, and perhaps I should do a quick count.


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$$ | . f O O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . X O X X . . X . , . . . O g X . . . |
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$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . , d . . |
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$$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . o . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . m . . |
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Lettering kept. Going to think some more about these.

a does stop white from doing most of the nasty things he can do... I'm not sure if it would have all that much use, but it still seems like a good idea.

d almost secures the right, but is too high -- white can still invade there, I think.

f may be big. I'm not sure. It doesn't look big, but from watching games, I remember white often answers.

g threatens to cut... Also very big if ignored, I think. Not sure.

i seems to bring everything together. I don't like this, too gote for not enough gain.

m seems like the safest and most reasonable move, but it is gote, and it seems rather cowardly. Instead of pressing on, I'd be trying to save my skin. I don't think it is essential, either..
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
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$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . 7 X 2 9 . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X 8 4 3 1 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 5 . . . . |
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White manages to cut and live, so perhaps joseki is a better idea.In any case, white doesn't live big, I think...

oSort of protects the right, while at the same time attacking white... I like this, but I'm not sure making two moyos is a good idea.


I think g is most sente.
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Re: 99. topazg vs sevis

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$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . X O X X . . X . , . . . O 1 X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
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$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Re: 99. topazg vs sevis

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for obs only:
Sevis wrote:
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$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . X O X X . . X . , . . . O 1 X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
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$$ | . O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Doubleposting to bump, hope nobody minds.

this comment is for weak SDKs and DDKs:
above is a perfect example of a bad play.
next move is obvious then it is like getting hit on a two stone head.
it is like running into a wall for no reason.
learn to avoid that shape.

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$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . 2 O O . . |
$$ | . X O X X . . X . , . . . O 1 X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Re: 99. topazg vs sevis

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$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . 2 O O . . |
$$ | . X O X X . . X . , . . . O 1 X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Well, can't ignore that, and am happy to double hane, so I don't feel the need to do anything other than the simple move here.
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Re: 99. topazg vs sevis

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I think I'll end up overconcentrated, but this is the only semi-decent reply I see... If white double-hanes, I'll be at a local loss, but I'll get sente, so I think white will wait.


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$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . 2 O O . . |
$$ | . X O X X . . X . , . . . O 1 X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 99. topazg vs sevis

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$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . 2 O O . . |
$$ | . X O X X . . X . , . . . O 1 X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Finally, some fun sente without a criminally weak group. Time to catch this game up. Sevis, you've played out of your skin for KGS 14k, and I really mean that. You taught me a valuable lesson in the lower left, and you've made some sound judgements all the way through. I'm now going to see how you respond to some complications, but treat the fact that I'm resorting to them as a compliment :)

As I said in my game against Ed, I'm going to be pressed for time and energy for quite a while, so I'm going to put my rejected moves only, and a couple of short comments. Please hammer me with questions if you have them, anyone :)

Rejected moves:

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$$ | . . O O . O . . e . . . . . 2 O O . . |
$$ | . X O X X . . X . , . . . O 1 X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . a . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 X O b . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . d . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X c . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . f . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 99. topazg vs sevis

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For sevis
What were you afraid Topazg could do if you didn't play :b54:?
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Re: 99. topazg vs sevis

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For hyperpape:
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[go]$$Bcm52 Prisoner Count: :b1: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . 2 O O . . |
$$ | . X O X X . . X . , . . . O 1 X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . 6 5 X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I don't like this at all -- I could fight there for a little more, but it doesn't look safe.


Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm52 Prisoner Count: :b1: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . 2 O O . . |
$$ | . X O X X . . X . , d . . O 1 X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X c 4 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . a b . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


a is first instinct.
b is for shape.
c is to defend the top.
d is to make sure white can't profit too much.

Going with b, because it allows me to continue in either direction.


Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm52 Prisoner Count: :b1: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . 2 O O . . |
$$ | . X O X X . . X . , . . . O 1 X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . 5 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Thank you, I'm surprised this game is going as well as it is. You got me very worried with the bottom-left, and I've been uneasy about the top-right corner until this last exchange. I can't wait to see the complications, I guess I should start reading more now. ^^


Going to be away for the weekend again, so next move will be around Monday.
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Re: 99. topazg vs sevis

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm52 Prisoner Count: :b1: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . 2 O O . . |
$$ | . X O X X . . X . , . . . O 1 X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . 5 . . . . . . . 6 . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Let's leave that there just in case my bottom group needs it later, I want to keep this side from expanding.
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Re: 99. topazg vs sevis

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm52 Prisoner Count: :b1: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . 2 O O . . |
$$ | . X O X X . . X . , . . . O 1 X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . 5 . . . . . . . 6 . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . 7 . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Don't want to let white get all of the centre, this should grab some. If he cuts, I'll block, and I don't think he'll be able to cut any further.
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Re: 99. topazg vs sevis

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm59 Prisoner Count: :b1: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . X O X X . . X . , . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . X 1 X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The only move really. He's given my move the prestige of being a peep, so I must cut.
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Re: 99. topazg vs sevis

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Servis:
If you look at the board, White will never ever get any territory in the center. Its him thats trying to prevent you from getting a center/ big side...
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Re: 99. topazg vs sevis

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm59 Prisoner Count: :b1: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . X O X X . . X . , . . . O X X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . . . X 1 X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . X . X O . . . . . 2 . . . |
$$ | O . O . X X . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . O O . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . O . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


White cutting on the left would be mildly problematic, but the ladder doesn't work, and I have the suspicion white will have to do more on the right.


Aphelion:
I trust in topazg's ability to make territory where he really shouldn't be able to.
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