I've been reading "A Dictionary of Modern Fuseki - The Korean Style" from Kisedo. ( It is heavy on diagrams, with little connective text. But if you work at it, you can get some of the idea of what is going on. )
There are problems in the back of the book. I'm starting on them, to see if I have really learned anything. I invite others to join me.
Which move is better: 'a' or 'b' or 'c'?
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Re: Dictionary of Modern Fuseki - problem 3
My feelings tell me to play "b" to flatten my opponent's moyo... But arguments for "a" seems good too... white would be in great danger if not playing "a"?
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Re: Dictionary of Modern Fuseki - problem 3
Joaz Banbeck wrote:I've been reading "A Dictionary of Modern Fuseki - The Korean Style" from Kisedo. ( It is heavy on diagrams, with little connective text. But if you work at it, you can get some of the idea of what is going on. )
There are problems in the back of the book. I'm starting on them, to see if I have really learned anything. I invite others to join me.
Which move is better: 'a' or 'b' or 'c'?
BTW, the book is available from Kiseido.com
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Re: Dictionary of Modern Fuseki - problem 3
B for me. As others have said, A looks very nice, but that left side looks just too huge to let B get another finishing move in there. Hopefully, however B pans out for me (connect to top, make a group on the side, flail out to the middle, etc.) I'd end in sente and THEN get to put A in if it is still big.
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Re: Dictionary of Modern Fuseki - problem 3
I would play 'b' or somewhere therearound.
'a' is nice, with the Black being thin on the right and all, but not that urgent, I think. The only way 'a' would be playable would be if it was a strong sente against the right side. It might be, but I am too lazy to read it out, so my instinct tells me 'b'.
The influence of 'a' along the upper edge is sweet, but to bring it to fruition White will have to add at least one more stone there, and Black will still have tons of awesome aji so this is not all that efficient for me...
So, my plan would be to play 'b', either tread lightly and get a chance to play 'a' later, which will give White the edge. Or, if Black insists, make a life around 'b' and ruin Black moyo, let Black have 'a' or therearound, and still be better of in points game with sente.
But... I am sure any competent player would just play tengen and declare victory.
'a' is nice, with the Black being thin on the right and all, but not that urgent, I think. The only way 'a' would be playable would be if it was a strong sente against the right side. It might be, but I am too lazy to read it out, so my instinct tells me 'b'.
The influence of 'a' along the upper edge is sweet, but to bring it to fruition White will have to add at least one more stone there, and Black will still have tons of awesome aji so this is not all that efficient for me...
So, my plan would be to play 'b', either tread lightly and get a chance to play 'a' later, which will give White the edge. Or, if Black insists, make a life around 'b' and ruin Black moyo, let Black have 'a' or therearound, and still be better of in points game with sente.
But... I am sure any competent player would just play tengen and declare victory.
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Re: Dictionary of Modern Fuseki - problem 3
Emerus had the first move for black correct...
A Dictionary of Modern Fuseki wrote:
White 3 is the deepest that white can invade, but black secures solid profit in the left with 4. However, white has failed to secure any profit with his moves.
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