102. Shaddy (3d?) vs. cloud (3d)

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Re: 102. Shaddy (3d?) vs. cloud (3d)

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Shapewise, this looks much better to me. Perhaps it puts less pressure on black? Or perhaps it has weaker follow ups?
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . O X . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . W . . . . . X X . . O . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . X X X . X . X O X O X . |
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$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Re: 102. Shaddy (3d?) vs. cloud (3d)

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@Puppycakes
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O X . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . W . . . . . X X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O O O O O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X X . X . X O X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X O |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . O . . O , O X . |
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I strongly considered this move. If I was winning I would play it without hesitation, but I feel like I need to play stronger in order to make something happen. Also, with the potential cut at L13, I feel that there is enough aji that I can fight if I need to.
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Re: 102. Shaddy (3d?) vs. cloud (3d)

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Oh, how tempted I am to push and cut. Must read more..
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Re: 102. Shaddy (3d?) vs. cloud (3d)

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[go]$$Bcm72 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O X . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . O O O O O O X X O O . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X O |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . 5 . O 4 . O , O X . |
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$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Re: 102. Shaddy (3d?) vs. cloud (3d)

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm72 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O X . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . O O O O O O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X X . X . X O X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 6 . . O . O O X X O |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . O O . O , O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , X . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 102. Shaddy (3d?) vs. cloud (3d)

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm72 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O X . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . O O O O O O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X X . X . X O X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O 7 . O . O O X X O |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . O O . O , O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O , X . . . X , X . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . . O X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'm very sorry for the long wait. I put it off, and then there was a mountain of work and finals on top of that, so I didn't have time to analyze like I wanted..
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Re: 102. Shaddy (3d?) vs. cloud (3d)

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IMHO, either 76 or 77 was an overplay. I can't figure out which.
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