Big Brother Malkovich #4

Mnemonic · Post by **Mnemonic** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 8:57 am

So I decided to start this because it seemed weird to add another middle brother in the 4k range. Since my Team is likely to be a bit stronger I put us down as white (but it’s still an even game, no?)

Team Black:

Simba (8k)
Topazg (1-2d)

Team White:

Mnemonic (8k-7k)
Violence (3d)

Rules:
In the other BB games there has been discussion about using Chinese scoring so that we don't have to track prisoners; I like that Idea

Other than that we are using a quota system starting with 9 corrections each. We will gain an extra correction after 5 consecutive moves without a change. The number of corrections is not limited so can grow higher than say 10.

Good game and good luck to my opponents!

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Aphelion · Post by **Aphelion** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 9:18 am

You could have made my changes more expensive to compensate.

Simba · Post by **Simba** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:18 pm

Best of luck to everyone

, hope it's a good game for all!

Aphelion: Hmm

, if you could find other people interested, I'd be fine to play another game as part of a team.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 Move 1 - B:9(1) W:9(0) $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . 1 . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

topazg · Post by **topazg** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:44 pm

I think I can approve that one

Loons · Post by **Loons** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:09 pm

If you incorporated Aph into Violence's team, I could perhaps counterweight that on topazg's team.

Edit:
In my opinion it mightbe better to inject another pair of players here than kick off another game with the same people. Also I'm nominally stronger than Aph by twoish stones, so it would average the ranks out.

Mnemonic · Post by **Mnemonic** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:32 am

I'll wait with responding to the move until we figure out our Team configuration. The reason why I already started the thread was that we already had a working and agreed upon configuration before we started talking about adding a new player. After discussing it for a bit it seemed there was no real consensus and we were eager to play so ...

I always thought the rank difference between players should be 4+ stones whereas the difference between me and Aph and Loons and topazg is 3.

topazg · Post by **topazg** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:00 am

It was originally raised as a 2v2, and we've got the ability to get cracking with that. 2v2 has the advantage of moving a fair bit faster than 3v3 as well. However, there aren't enough of these, so maybe Loons and Aph should be the captains of another 2v2?

I don't particularly object to changing this one, but it's beginning to feel like a red-tape exercise

Loons · Post by **Loons** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:25 am

Oh, yes, I didn't mean to press the issue, was just speculating. By all means, continue.

Good luck as Violence's opposite number especially, topazg.

topazg · Post by **topazg** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:35 am

Sorry, I wasn't meaning to be so blunt. I think BB formats are good, see if you can find a team member if you do want to play one, it would be nice to have more happening!

Thanks RE: the luck - I actually suspect with the corrections that neither myself nor violence will have a huge impact - and besides, it's only really for learning and fun anyway

robinz · Post by **robinz** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:14 am

I'd happily volunteer to be a "little brother" in a new game. (I would have volunteered for this one, but Mnemonic and Simba got in before me

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(If serious discussions do take place about a new game, though, I would suggest we move them to another thread to avoid littering up this one - Big Brother games seem to take up enough posts anyway...)

Simba · Post by **Simba** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:59 am

Ah, so Loons, you're ~3k? In that case, we could start up another game: Aphelion (4k) and me (7k) against Loons (3k) and Robinz (9k)

. I'm happy for that - if you guys are fine with that, we could start that ^_^ . Aphelion is only 3 ranks stronger than me, but it would be more fair this way since 4 + 7 is quite close to 3 + 9. If you guys prefer that Loons goes with me and Aphelion goes with Robinz, I have no problem with that either. Whatever's good for you guys

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robinz · Post by **robinz** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 8:14 am

My rank is fairly approximate anyway, given how little I've managed to play (either f2f or on KGS) this year. Somewhere around 8 or 9k, probably - but no-one should be surprised if I make moves that a 15k would be ashamed of :lol:

Aphelion · Post by **Aphelion** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:01 am

Sorry, I didn't mean to derail this discussion. I have no problems with the proposal by Simba, it would be nicer to have 3 ppl per team though.

Mnemonic · Post by **Mnemonic** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:19 pm

Since the argument seems to be over I'll make my move now

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 Move 1 - B:9(1) W:9(0) $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Some variation of how the first few moves chould go.

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Violence · Post by **Violence** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:38 pm

Approved.

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