105: emerus (3k) vs Mnemonic (8k)

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Re: 105: emerus (3k) vs Mnemonic (8k)

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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . O , . . . X . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X 7 . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . O . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X X O X . . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . . . . . . X . . O . . |
$$ | . . O , X O O . . X . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . X . . X X O . O . . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
While I was teaching the game to a friend of mine, my mother from the other room:
"Cutting? Killing? Poking out eyes? What the hell are you playing?"
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Re: 105: emerus (3k) vs Mnemonic (8k)

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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . O , . . . X . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 8 X X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . O . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X X O X . . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . . . . . . X . . O . . |
$$ | . . O , X O O . . X . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . X . . X X O . O . . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think I'm glad that he didn't cut there. We'll see what his next idea is then I think it's time to count.
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . O , . . . X . , . . . |
$$ | . 9 . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . O . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X X O X . . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . . . . . . X . . O . . |
$$ | . . O , X O O . . X . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . X . . X X O . O . . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I actually got a sequence right :shock: But let's see where this invasion goes before we start partying
While I was teaching the game to a friend of mine, my mother from the other room:
"Cutting? Killing? Poking out eyes? What the hell are you playing?"
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Re: 105: emerus (3k) vs Mnemonic (8k)

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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . 0 O . X . . O , . . . X . , . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . O . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X X O X . . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . . . . . . X . . O . . |
$$ | . . O , X O O . . X . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . X . . X X O . O . . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I'll let him squirm around in here. He needs 16 stones on the 3rd line to live? Right? Right...?
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[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . 1 O O . X . . O , . . . X . , . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . O . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X X O X . . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . . . . . . X . . O . . |
$$ | . . O , X O O . . X . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . X . . X X O . O . . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Expecting this:
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[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 2 4 . O . . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . 1 O O . X . . O , . . . X . , . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . 5 . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . O . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X X O X . . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . . . . . . X . . O . . |
$$ | . . O , X O O . . X . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . X . . X X O . O . . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
While I was teaching the game to a friend of mine, my mother from the other room:
"Cutting? Killing? Poking out eyes? What the hell are you playing?"
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Re: 105: emerus (3k) vs Mnemonic (8k)

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[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . a . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 2 . . O . . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . . O , . . . X . , . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . O . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X X O X . . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . . . . . . X . . O . . |
$$ | . . O , X O O . . X . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . X . . X X O . O . . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Trigger if 'a':
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[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O 2 . O . . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . . O , . . . X . , . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . O . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X X O X . . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . . . . . . X . . O . . |
$$ | . . O , X O O . . X . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . X . . X X O . O . . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This is a middle game joseki to make the beginnings of a live group when white has a strong corner. He still needs running room or aji to create life.

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[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . 1 O O . X . . O , . . . X . , . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . O . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . c , . . X X O X . . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . a b . X . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . Q . . X . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . . . . . . X . . O . . |
$$ | . . O , X O O . . X . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . X . . X X O . O . . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


:wt: was played to clear up some of the aji that would be necessary for black to have lived. Moves like a-b-c would have been hard to deal with.
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[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . B . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O W . O . . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . . O , . . . X . , . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . 5 . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . O . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X X O X . . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . . . . . . X . . O . . |
$$ | . . O , X O O . . X . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . X . . X X O . O . . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I accept your trigger.
Not sure what the best move is. My move is an armpit hit, but it's my best chance to live. Honestly I don't really know any further than this and don't know if there is a clever way of making this group die. I tried to read out a few sequences and it looks ok, but the branching factor is pretty large so I'll wait a couple of moves and then come back with an analysis.
While I was teaching the game to a friend of mine, my mother from the other room:
"Cutting? Killing? Poking out eyes? What the hell are you playing?"
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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . B . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O W . O . . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . . O , . . . X . , . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . 6 5 . . . . O X X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . 4 X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 2 1 O . O . . O . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . 3 . , . . X X O X . . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . . . . . . X . . O . . |
$$ | . . O , X O O . . X . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . X . . X X O . O . . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think Black is in trouble maybe.

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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . B . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O W . O . . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . . O , . . . X . , . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | 6 . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 5 2 1 O . O . . O . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . 3 . , . . X X O X . . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . . . . . . X . . O . . |
$$ | . . O , X O O . . X . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . X . . X X O . O . . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Ko is probably possible.
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Re: 105: emerus (3k) vs Mnemonic (8k)

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[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . B . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O W . O . . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . . O , . . . X . , . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 6 O . O . . O . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X X O X . . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . . . . . . X . . O . . |
$$ | . . O , X O O . . X . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . X . . X X O . O . . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Not nearly enough room for black and I think I cleaned up all aji earlier. Well... let's see what he comes up with.
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[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . . O , . . . X . , . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . 7 X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . O . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X X O X . . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . . . . . . X . . O . . |
$$ | . . O , X O O . . X . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . X . . X X O . O . . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

No variations yet. Just riding the storm.
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Re: 105: emerus (3k) vs Mnemonic (8k)

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[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . . O , . . . X . , . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 8 O O . O . . O . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X X O X . . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . . . . . . X . . O . . |
$$ | . . O , X O O . . X . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . X . . X X O . O . . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 105: emerus (3k) vs Mnemonic (8k)

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[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . . O , . . . X . , . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . O . . O . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X X O X . . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . . . . . . X . . O . . |
$$ | . . O , X O O . . X . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . X . . X X O . O . . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This point seems like the vital point, currently I think I am alive, if only just. This is what I'm reading:
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[go]$$Bcm79 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 6 O O . O . . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | 4 X O O . X . . O , . . . X . , . . . |
$$ | 5 X . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . 7 . . . . . O X X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | 3 . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | 2 X X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . O . . O . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X X O X . . . X X X . . . |[/go]
While I was teaching the game to a friend of mine, my mother from the other room:
"Cutting? Killing? Poking out eyes? What the hell are you playing?"
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Re: 105: emerus (3k) vs Mnemonic (8k)

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This kills right.
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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . . O , . . . X . , . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . 2 1 . . . . O X X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | 3 . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . O . . O . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X X O X . . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . . . . . . X . . O . . |
$$ | . . O , X O O . . X . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . X . . X X O . O . . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 105: emerus (3k) vs Mnemonic (8k)

Post by Marcus »

Puppycakes wrote:
This kills right.
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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . . O , . . . X . , . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . 2 1 . . . . O X X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | 3 . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . O . . O . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X X O X . . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . . . . . . X . . O . . |
$$ | . . O , X O O . . X . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . X . . X X O . O . . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Yes, that looks correct, and is cleaner than the solution I was thinking. There are multiple ways to kill Black here.
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Re: 105: emerus (3k) vs Mnemonic (8k)

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[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . O . . . . O . . . . 0 . X . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . . O , . . . X . , . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O . O . . O . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X X O X . . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X O . . . . . . X . . O . . |
$$ | . . O , X O O . . X . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . X . . X X O . O . . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Mmmh.... I've done quite a lot of reading and don't see any real aji that will bite me in the butt. Black can likely take a stone or two at j11 but those are relatively unimportant.

I think I said I would do a detailed count soon but if B just died in gote, it's not necessary. I feel white was ahead by at least 35 on the board before blacks ill advised invasion.
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