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2nd line opening

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I read below from E-Journal. Does anyone have any info on this 2nd line opening?

Unlike Round 1, round 2 produced some upsets. In one of the most unusual games of the afternoon, Kamil Chwedyna 4D of Poland used his patented second-line opening to defeat Viktor Lin 5D of Austria. In the closest game Salvador Larios 1k of Mexico squeaked past Hock Doong Ho 1D of Malaysia by half a point, and in the biggest surprise of the day, James Hutchinson 1k of Ireland upended Torben Pedersen 3D of Denmark.
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Re: 2nd line opening

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Here, you can find the Kifu to the game: http://www.nihonkiin.or.jp/amakisen/wor ... cords.html
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Re: 2nd line opening

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Here's the game in question:

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Re: 2nd line opening

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Thanks for the link


[sgf-full](
TE[The 32nd WAGC Round2]
RD[2011.05.29]
PC[Shimane,Japan]
TM[60 minutes]
LT[30 seconds at third time]
LC[-]
KO[6.5 pts]
RE[White won by resign.]
PB[V.LIN]
BR[14-AUT]
PW[K.CHWEDYNA]
WR[23-POL]
GK[1]
TC[
]
;B[pd]
;W[ro]
;B[dp]
;W[li]
;B[dd]
;W[fc]
;B[cf]
;W[fe]
;B[id]
;W[ld]
;B[nc]
;W[me]
;B[gd]
;W[fd]
;B[ig]
;W[gf]
;B[kg]
;W[mg]
;B[hh]
;W[ch]
;B[dh]
;W[gh]
;B[gi]
;W[fi]
;B[di]
;W[fh]
;B[gj]
;W[fj]
;B[gk]
;W[ci]
;B[dj]
;W[cj]
;B[ck]
;W[bk]
;B[cg]
;W[fk]
;B[fl]
;W[gl]
;B[hl]
;W[gm]
;B[el]
;W[ij]
;B[hk]
;W[hm]
;B[jl]
;W[ji]
;B[ii]
;W[jh]
;B[hf]
;W[im]
;B[jk]
;W[cl]
;B[dk]
;W[bm]
;B[db]
;W[ib]
;B[hb]
;W[hc]
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;W[he]
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;W[ge]
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;B[je]
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;B[lc]
;W[kd]
;B[kn]
;W[fq]
;B[fo]
;W[go]
;B[fp]
;W[gp]
;B[eq]
;W[kp]
;B[gq]
;W[hq]
;B[fr]
;W[jm]
;B[km]
;W[kl]
;B[ll]
;W[kk]
;B[kj]
;W[lk]
;B[lj]
;W[mk]
;B[mj]
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;B[nk]
;W[ml]
;B[ik]
;W[hi]
;B[bh]
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;W[op]
;B[oq]
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;B[nr]
;W[pq]
;B[or]
;W[pp]
;B[pr]
;W[rr]
;B[qr]
;W[mq]
;B[qo]
;W[qn]
;B[po]
;W[on]
;B[oo]
;W[nn]
;B[rm]
;W[rn]
;B[np]
;W[qj]
;B[mm]
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;B[mi]
;W[oj]
;B[pi]
;W[pj]
;B[nj]
;W[oi]
;B[nh]
;W[pg]
;B[nf]
;W[of]
;B[ne]
;W[ng]
;B[oh]
;W[ph]
;B[og]
;W[pf]
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Re: 2nd line opening

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A very non-traditional opening indeed, but I must confess I had visions of 5-10 2nd line moves, not just one! :twisted:
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Re: 2nd line opening

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LOL
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Re: 2nd line opening

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Sanity is for the weak.
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Re: 2nd line opening

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Here is a himountain game where he went on a second-line rampage after black opened on tengen
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Re: 2nd line opening

Post by Joaz Banbeck »

SoDesuNe wrote:Here, you can find the Kifu to the game: http://www.nihonkiin.or.jp/amakisen/wor ... cords.html


That looks like a tactical win by white, in which the opening move in question is almost irrelevant. White makes a big kill long before the play moves to the area where the second-rank move was played.
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