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Re: 122. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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I don't know what's right to play here. I feel like my move is weak and cowardly. But it feels safe, at least.
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Re: 122. Magicwand vs. Kirby

Post by EdLee »

:b38: seems to help W. If :b1: at 3-3 directly, then later,
B can aim at the :b3: peep, then push and cut. W cannot resist with (a),
so :w6: is the only move. But B cannot do this yet, because of the heavy group :bc::
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Re: 122. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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Re: 122. Magicwand vs. Kirby

Post by yithril »

This is rough for kirby, getting sealed in like this. I agree with EdLee, 3,3 point was better.
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Re: 122. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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I am playing weakly right now... Hopefully, I can get some sort of rhythm back.
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Re: 122. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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Re: 122. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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Re: 122. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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I don't know what is correct, but I don't think I need to respond to his move.
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[go]$$Wcm41
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[go]$$Wcm41
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Clearly, this group is the one that needs the most help...
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Re: 122. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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Imo, most of Kirby's 3 stone advantage is gone. The entire bottom half of the board looks really ugly for black...as if the stones have no clear goal at all.
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Post by EdLee »

If B replies to the peep :wc:, it seems sente:
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[go]$$B :w2: tenuki
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Re: 122. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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@EdLee
You speak truth :P

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I think White can win the liberty race.

Too bad there's like no cut.
Nein Mann, ich will noch nicht gehen, ich will noch 'n bisschen tanzen.
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