Life in 19 by 19 tournament 2011

[Joaz Banbeck]

Last year, the tournament started in June. It's high time to get it going for 2011.
Topazg, who ran it last year, has a life, and is too busy this year. So I'm going to step in.

I hope to use this thread merely to discuss the organizational issues. Once we can get a rough consensus - in a few days, I hope - I'll start a registration thread.

My plan is to do accelerated Swiss style rather than the elimination of last year. This means that everybody gets to play more, and one or two misclicks won't cost you the tournament. I'm thinking about 5 rounds, maybe a playoff if necessary, and then the winner gets to take a shot at unseating the current champion in a best of 3 or best of 5. KGS will again be the default venue.

We will, of course, take a break for Congress.

Any opinions?

Any scheduling suggestions? ( what is the earliest that anyone's semester starts? )

[karaklis]

We will, of course, take a break for Congress.

You speak in singular, do you mean the US Go Congress or the European Go Congress?

[jts]

I'd join, but when you say "we'll take a break for Congress" you seem to imply either that the matches will be pre-scheduled rather than self-scheduled, or that entrants will have to play a large number of games per week... what did you have in mind there?

[dedroid]

i'd be interested in playing in the tournament my semester starts aug 22

[Joaz Banbeck]

I'd join, but when you say "we'll take a break for Congress" you seem to imply either that the matches will be pre-scheduled rather than self-scheduled, or that entrants will have to play a large number of games per week... what did you have in mind there?

Games are self-scheduled, as last year. I'm merely noting that players should not expect their opponent to be available the week of US Congress ( or the weeks of European Congress ). If both players can do it, that's fine.

A large number of games per week? No. I'll be amazed if we manage 1 round per week.

i'd be interested in playing in the tournament my semester starts aug 22

So we'll probably slow down a bit as people go back to school. I hope to finish in September.

Like last year, we'll do our best to work around people's schedules.

[Joaz Banbeck]

I'm thinking same rules as last year:

Ruleset: AGA is the default. Others are fine if agreed by both players.

Main Time: 40 minutes.

Overtime: Either 10 stones in 5 minutes Canadian overtime or 5 x 0:40 Japanese Byo-yomi. If there is a disagreement between players, then Canadian overtime is the default.

Handicaps: All games to be even, colour decided by nigiri.

Is that ok with everyone? Did they work last year?

[topazg]

Sounds good

[cubesmith]

I'd like to plat too, if possible?
I will keep my eyes open for a registration thread (unless this is it?!)

(9k KGS)

[Dusk Eagle]

These rules seem good to me.

[Hushfield]

Yes, if this counts as the registration thread, then I'd love to sign up. The rules you proposed seem good, though I personally have a slight preference for Japanese byo-yomi (as I find it much easier to quickly gauge how much time I have left). But it seems we might choose to use Japanese byo-yomi if both players agree. Cool initiative, and I'm looking forward to playing in this tournament. How many people are expected to compete in this edition?

[Joaz Banbeck]

Yes, if this counts as the registration thread...

It is not. I wanted to get any rules isuuse resolved in one thread, then do registration. I was worried that if we did them simultaneously, we would have people registering, then seeing some rule or condition that didn't work for them, and then withdrawing. It seemed that a dual purpose thread had the potential to get messy.

There will be a separate registration thread, probably today.

How many people are expected to compete in this edition?

All 1587 members, of course. Since about half of those are frustrated spambots, maybe 750.
But Topazg says we had 48 last year.

That, BTW, is why I say 'about 5' rounds. If we have close to 32 entrants, 5 will be enough to be rather sure that we won't have two undefeated people at the end. Even into the 40s, with accelerated pairings the odds are good that we'll have a single undisputed challenger. When it gets around 55 or so, 6 starts to be more useful. ( It has been many decades since I looked st swiss pairing theory, so my memory of 55 could be off. But we have the option of a playoff as a backup, so it should be ok )

[oren]

That, BTW, is why I say 'about 5' rounds. If we have close to 32 entrants, 5 will be enough to be rather sure that we won't have two undefeated people at the end. Even into the 40s, with accelerated pairings the odds are good that we'll have a single undisputed challenger. When it gets around 55 or so, 6 starts to be more useful. ( It has been many decades since I looked st swiss pairing theory, so my memory of 55 could be off. But we have the option of a playoff as a backup, so it should be ok )

If it came to a poll, I'd prefer to see keeping the same elimination format as last year.

[topazg]

If we are to do an accelerated swiss, I'd be in favour of 8 rounds or so

[HermanHiddema]

I'm not a big fan of Swiss, accelerated or not, in a field with such a wide rang of skill. How about McMahon?

[Joaz Banbeck]

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If it came to a poll, I'd prefer to see keeping the same elimination format as last year.

In just three posts, we have three different suggestions. So, TO THE POLLS!

Cast your vote at: http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/viewto ... f=9&t=4217