$$c $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . X O X . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O . O X . . X O O . O . O O . . . . | $$ | . . O , X . . W . , O X . X X X . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . | $$ | . O X O . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . | $$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . | $$ | . O O O . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . | $$ | . . X O X . . . X , X . . O . , O . . | $$ | . X X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . | $$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . | $$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . | $$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . | $$ | . . X X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . X O X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | . X O O . . O O . X . . . X X . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$c $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . X O X . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O . O X . . X O O . O . O O . . . . | $$ | . . O , X . . W . , O X . X X X . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . | $$ | . O X O . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . | $$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . | $$ | . O O O . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . | $$ | . . X O X . . . X , X . . O . , O . . | $$ | . X X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . | $$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . | $$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . | $$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . | $$ | . . X X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . X O X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | . X O O . . O O . X . . . X X . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
you will find out later if i have a lead.
"The more we think we know about
The greater the unknown" Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson
$$c $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . X O X . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O . O X . 1 X O O . O . O O . . . . | $$ | . . O , X . . O . , O X . X X X . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . | $$ | . O X O . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . | $$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . | $$ | . O O O . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . | $$ | . . X O X . . . X , X . . O . , O . . | $$ | . X X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . | $$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . | $$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . | $$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . | $$ | . . X X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . X O X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | . X O O . . O O . X . . . X X . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$c $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . X O X . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O . O X . 1 X O O . O . O O . . . . | $$ | . . O , X . . O . , O X . X X X . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . | $$ | . O X O . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . | $$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . | $$ | . O O O . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . | $$ | . . X O X . . . X , X . . O . , O . . | $$ | . X X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . | $$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . | $$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . | $$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . | $$ | . . X X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . X O X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | . X O O . . O O . X . . . X X . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
It's a really close game. I wonder what he will do next.
Main Entry: zing·er Pronunciation: \ˈziŋ-ər\
1 : something causing or meant to cause interest, surprise, or shock
2 : a pointed witty remark or retort
$$c $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . X O X . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O . O X . X X O O . O . O O W . . . | $$ | . . O , X . . O . , O X . X X X . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . | $$ | . O X O . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . | $$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . | $$ | . O O O . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . | $$ | . . X O X . . . X , X . . O . , O . . | $$ | . X X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . | $$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . | $$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . | $$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . | $$ | . . X X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . X O X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | . X O O . . O O . X . . . X X . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$c $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . X O X . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O . O X . X X O O . O . O O W . . . | $$ | . . O , X . . O . , O X . X X X . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . | $$ | . O X O . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . | $$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . | $$ | . O O O . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . | $$ | . . X O X . . . X , X . . O . , O . . | $$ | . X X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . | $$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . | $$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . | $$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . | $$ | . . X X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . X O X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | . X O O . . O O . X . . . X X . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
"The more we think we know about
The greater the unknown" Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson
$$c $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . X O X . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O . O X . X X O O . O . O O O 1 . . | $$ | . . O , X . . O . , O X . X X X . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . | $$ | . O X O . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . | $$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . | $$ | . O O O . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . | $$ | . . X O X . . . X , X . . O . , O . . | $$ | . X X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . | $$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . | $$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . | $$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . | $$ | . . X X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . X O X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | . X O O . . O O . X . . . X X . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$c $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . X O X . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O . O X . X X O O . O . O O O 1 . . | $$ | . . O , X . . O . , O X . X X X . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . | $$ | . O X O . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . | $$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . | $$ | . O O O . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . | $$ | . . X O X . . . X , X . . O . , O . . | $$ | . X X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . | $$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . | $$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . | $$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . | $$ | . . X X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . X O X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | . X O O . . O O . X . . . X X . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
ho hum, waiting for a turn where I have a choice ..
Main Entry: zing·er Pronunciation: \ˈziŋ-ər\
1 : something causing or meant to cause interest, surprise, or shock
2 : a pointed witty remark or retort
It's real close, and could easily be lost by an endgame blunder, but I predict a 3.5 point win for black.
Question - is there komi? I think the above is a good estimate of the score on the board at the moment, but komi would be hard for black. Furthermore, I see more valuable endgame plays for white at this point - j4 and b3 for example. Black has a big move at r9, but the rest of the board looks like defense for black. So if their is komi I think this is magicwand's game, without it I think he may squeak it out.
My days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle
It's real close, and could easily be lost by an endgame blunder, but I predict a 3.5 point win for black.
Question - is there komi? I think the above is a good estimate of the score on the board at the moment, but komi would be hard for black. Furthermore, I see more valuable endgame plays for white at this point - j4 and b3 for example. Black has a big move at r9, but the rest of the board looks like defense for black. So if their is komi I think this is magicwand's game, without it I think he may squeak it out.
$$c $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . X O X . . . . . W X . . . | $$ | . O . O X . X X O O . O . O O O X . . | $$ | . . O , X . . O . , O X . X X X . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . | $$ | . O X O . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . | $$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . | $$ | . O O O . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . | $$ | . . X O X . . . X , X . . O . , O . . | $$ | . X X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . | $$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . | $$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . | $$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . | $$ | . . X X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . X O X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | . X O O . . O O . X . . . X X . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$c $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . X O X . . . . . W X . . . | $$ | . O . O X . X X O O . O . O O O X . . | $$ | . . O , X . . O . , O X . X X X . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . | $$ | . O X O . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . | $$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . | $$ | . O O O . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . | $$ | . . X O X . . . X , X . . O . , O . . | $$ | . X X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . | $$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . | $$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . | $$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . | $$ | . . X X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . X O X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | . X O O . . O O . X . . . X X . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
"The more we think we know about
The greater the unknown" Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson
$$c $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . X O X . . . . . O X 1 . . | $$ | . O . O X . X X O O . O . O O O X . . | $$ | . . O , X . . O . , O X . X X X . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . | $$ | . O X O . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . | $$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . | $$ | . O O O . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . | $$ | . . X O X . . . X , X . . O . , O . . | $$ | . X X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . | $$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . | $$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . | $$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . | $$ | . . X X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . X O X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | . X O O . . O O . X . . . X X . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$c $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . X O X . . . . . O X 1 . . | $$ | . O . O X . X X O O . O . O O O X . . | $$ | . . O , X . . O . , O X . X X X . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . | $$ | . O X O . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . | $$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . | $$ | . O O O . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . | $$ | . . X O X . . . X , X . . O . , O . . | $$ | . X X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . | $$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . | $$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . | $$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . | $$ | . . X X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . X O X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | . X O O . . O O . X . . . X X . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Sente for him, but I am left with a few points of equity at P19.
Main Entry: zing·er Pronunciation: \ˈziŋ-ər\
1 : something causing or meant to cause interest, surprise, or shock
2 : a pointed witty remark or retort
$$c $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . X O X . . . . . O X X . . | $$ | . O . O X . X X O O . O . O O O X . . | $$ | . . O , X . . O . , O X . X X X . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . | $$ | . O X O . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . | $$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . | $$ | . O O O . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . | $$ | . . X O X . . . X , X . . O . , O . . | $$ | . X X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . | $$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . | $$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . | $$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . | $$ | . . X X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . | $$ | . W X O X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | . X O O . . O O . X . . . X X . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$c $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . X O X . . . . . O X X . . | $$ | . O . O X . X X O O . O . O O O X . . | $$ | . . O , X . . O . , O X . X X X . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . | $$ | . O X O . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . | $$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . | $$ | . O O O . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . | $$ | . . X O X . . . X , X . . O . , O . . | $$ | . X X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . | $$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . | $$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . | $$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . | $$ | . . X X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . | $$ | . W X O X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | . X O O . . O O . X . . . X X . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
"The more we think we know about
The greater the unknown" Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson
$$c $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . X O X . . . . . O X X . . | $$ | . O . O X . X X O O . O . O O O X . . | $$ | . . O , X . . O . , O X . X X X . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . | $$ | . O X O . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . | $$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . | $$ | . O O O . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . | $$ | . . X O X . . . X , X . . O . , O . . | $$ | . X X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . | $$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . | $$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . | $$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . | $$ | 1 . X X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . | $$ | . O X O X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | . X O O . . O O . X . . . X X . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$c $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . X O X . . . . . O X X . . | $$ | . O . O X . X X O O . O . O O O X . . | $$ | . . O , X . . O . , O X . X X X . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . | $$ | . O X O . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . | $$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . | $$ | . O O O . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . | $$ | . . X O X . . . X , X . . O . , O . . | $$ | . X X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . | $$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . | $$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . | $$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . | $$ | 1 . X X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . | $$ | . O X O X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | . X O O . . O O . X . . . X X . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
OK, taking this stone is gote for him. I'll get a real turn shortly. Unless he changes his mind that is.
Main Entry: zing·er Pronunciation: \ˈziŋ-ər\
1 : something causing or meant to cause interest, surprise, or shock
2 : a pointed witty remark or retort
$$c $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . X O X . . . . . O X X . . | $$ | . O . O X . X X O O . O . O O O X . . | $$ | . . O , X . . O . , O X . X X X . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . | $$ | . O X O . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . | $$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . | $$ | . O O O . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . | $$ | . . X O X . . . X , X . . O . , O . . | $$ | . X X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . | $$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . | $$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . | $$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . | $$ | X . X X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . | $$ | . O X O X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | W X O O . . O O . X . . . X X . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$c $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . X O X . . . . . O X X . . | $$ | . O . O X . X X O O . O . O O O X . . | $$ | . . O , X . . O . , O X . X X X . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . | $$ | . O X O . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . | $$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . | $$ | . O O O . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . | $$ | . . X O X . . . X , X . . O . , O . . | $$ | . X X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . | $$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . | $$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . | $$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . | $$ | X . X X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . | $$ | . O X O X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | W X O O . . O O . X . . . X X . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
"The more we think we know about
The greater the unknown" Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson
B4 would leave white with ko aji on the first line:
$$ 3 = tenuki $$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . | $$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . | $$ | 5 6 . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . | $$ | 4 1 X X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . | $$ | . O X O X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | 2 . O O . . O O . X . . . X X . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$ 3 = tenuki $$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . | $$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . | $$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . | $$ | 5 6 . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . | $$ | 4 1 X X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . | $$ | . O X O X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . | $$ | 2 . O O . . O O . X . . . X X . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Very bad. Black 1 in the game avoids this.
Last edited by zinger on Thu May 13, 2010 12:05 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Main Entry: zing·er Pronunciation: \ˈziŋ-ər\
1 : something causing or meant to cause interest, surprise, or shock
2 : a pointed witty remark or retort
