128. Dusk Eagle vs Psychee

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[go]$$Wcm55 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . O . . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . , O X . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Like I said, I was expecting him to tenuki. But looking at it closely, I guess he was afraid of a sequence like below, which is rather annoying I must admit.

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[go]$$Wcm1 'a' and 'b' miai.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . O . . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . , O X . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . O a X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . b X O 1 2 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Anyway, I'm quite happy that I got sente where I don't think I should have, and now I'm using it to break up the left side. The short sequence I expect is:

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . b . X O . . O . . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . , O X . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . 2 X . . . . . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . a . . . . . . . O . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . 3 c X . . . . . , . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . 4 . . . X . . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

With :w5: at 'a' or 'b' depending on how much I want to push my luck. He could choose to be more aggressive with :b4: but I have a feeling he won't be, and it's not disastrous for me if he is.

I'm approaching at :w1: instead of 'a' in the diagram above for two reasons:
1) It's a more foreign move, so hopefully he's less comfortable handling it
2) If I approached at 'a' and he played 'c', I would be dissatisfied.
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Re: 128. Dusk Eagle vs Psychee

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[go]$$Bcm56 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . O . . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . , O X . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . 1 X . . . . . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


No other choice than this one. I'd say the only move for me.

Is 'a' not big? :scratch: or he thinks it's too local?

I would probably play there if I have sente. What is his next move? (3.3)? or attach my hoshi stone?

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[go]$$Wcm55 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . O . . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . , O X . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . a O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Wcm57 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . O . . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . , O X . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . 1 . X . . . . . , . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

As per my previous post.
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[go]$$Bcm58 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . O . . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . , O X . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O 1 X . . . . . , . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm57 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . O . . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . , O X . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . Q . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . 1 . X . . . . . , . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Because :wt: is there, so it's not very favorable to press white down and have a wall. So maybe just secure my corner. Will I have sente here?
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[go]$$Wcm59 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . O . . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . , O X . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . , . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Trigger (view after you make your move):
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[go]$$Bcm60 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . O . . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . , O X . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . , . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . 1 . . . . X . . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Pulling back is natural, as is him blocking the corner with :b60:. :w61: is then a probe of the corner: if he connects, I have a larger endgame than before, and if he descends, I have some aji to work with at :w63: below:

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[go]$$Bcm60
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . O . . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . , O X . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . , . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | 3 1 . . . . X . . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . 2 . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
We don't know who we are; we don't know where we are.
Each of us woke up one moment and here we were in the darkness.
We're nameless things with no memory; no knowledge of what went before,
No understanding of what is now, no knowledge of what will be.
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[go]$$Bcm60 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . O . . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . , O X . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . , . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . 1 . . . . X . . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Heya, I'll be on holiday for a week starting from tomorrow, and will be back on Aug 3rd. So probably will make the next move on the Aug 4th. I'll read your trigger after I post this, and I guess you have given the response to this move already, so I can make another move later. :)
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[go]$$Wcm61 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . O . . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . , O X . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . , . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | 2 X . . . . X . . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If I played C3, it would make A4 a sente move and A5 an eye for him. So should descend here, even though there's aji and white's strong on the middle bottom.
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[go]$$Wcm63 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . O . . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . , O X . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . , . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | X X 1 . . . X . . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

That last move by him left a lot of bad aji, and I think right away is the time to exploit it. I was considering waiting, but I was afraid he could fix some of his weakness in sente like this.

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . O . . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . , O X . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O 5 . . . . . . . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . 4 3 . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . . |
$$ | . 2 1 . . . . . . . O . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . , . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | X X . . . . X . . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

But now, he has a bit of a predicament ahead. How will he manage?

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . O . . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . , O X . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . 5 6 . . . . . . O . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X 4 . . . . , . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | X X O 2 . . X . . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . O 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . O . . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . , O X . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . O . 1 . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O . . . . , . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | X X O O 2 . X . . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | a O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

If he plays as above, he'll still have to come back and live in the corner at some point, or I can kill with 'a'. This might be his strongest resistance though.

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . O . . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . , O X . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X 5 . . . . , . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | X B O 2 4 . X . . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | 6 O 1 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This also seems like a reasonable way to play for him.

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . O . . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . , O X . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . O . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . , . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | X X O . . . X . . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This might be possible, but it will be a huge loss for him in the corner, especially given that his group will be weak.

So, as long as I'm not missing something incredibly obvious, I have a great chance here to catch up or at least pull a lot closer here.
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Re: 128. Dusk Eagle vs Psychee

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[go]$$Bcm64 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . O . . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . , O X . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . , . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | X X O . . . X . . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . O 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This seems to be the only move here...

Did I misread something before my holiday, or my thought is still left somewhere on the mountain, I was so surprised to see white making this move, how did I not even consider this cut on my last move. :evil:

After we finish this local, I should count a bit. :rambo:
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[go]$$Wcm65 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . O . . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . , O X . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . , . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | X X O 1 . . X . . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

If you atari either side I'll extend.
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[go]$$Bcm66 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . O . . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . , O X . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . , . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | X X O O 1 . X . . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . O X 2 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Untolerable to live small in the corner...
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[go]$$Wcm69 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . O . . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . , O X . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . , . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | X X O O X . X . . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Taking the corner in sente, which completely settles my group and makes his weaker even after he reinforces is quite nice for me. Assuming he reinforces in gote on the bottom, I next have to think about how to handle the top-left.
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But if he does tenuki to the top left, then how do I follow-up? I must think about that...
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Re: 128. Dusk Eagle vs Psychee

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@Dusk Eagle:
When you talk about Black going for the upper left, what do you have in mind, exactly?

Are you simply thinking of something like this:
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[go]$$Wcm69 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . B . X O . . O . . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . , O X . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . , . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | X X O O X . X . . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


or more of a moyo strategy like this:
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[go]$$Wcm69 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . O . . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . , O X . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . B . O X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . , . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | X X O O X . X . . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


or do you mean something else, entirely? :-D
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Re: 128. Dusk Eagle vs Psychee

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Working my way through this Malkovich, and thought I'd make a few comments along the way.

:b6:
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[go]$$Bcm6
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I think this move would be better one space above (the narabi) to protect the corner.


:b8:
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[go]$$Bcm8
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . b . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X a . . |
$$ | . . . 1 . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I think (a) should be played first. Then black can tenuki and treat (a) as a forcing move and play at (b) completing his shape on top.


:b10:
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[go]$$Bcm10
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . 1 . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X a . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Now this move isn't as effective as it may have been with B(a).


:b28:
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[go]$$Bcm28
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . O . . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . , O X . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Should probably be the keima and not the tobi.


:b40:
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[go]$$Bcm40 Prisoners: :b100: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . O . . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . , O X . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . b . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . Y a . O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I think :bt: should have been at (a) (just in general it puts more pressure on white). Then :b40: at (b) to develop his moyo.


:b52:
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[go]$$Bcm52 Prisoners: :b1: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X O . . O . . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X X . . , O X . X . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . X , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . O . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . . O . . 1 O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I definitely think this move is in the wrong direction.


Well, that's all for now. I'm going to watch the NAIM game. ^^
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