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Looks like he got me here, I didn't see this sequence, and now I'm sealed in the corner in gote, something I wanted very much to avoid. What will he do with his sente?

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Maybe something along these lines?
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[go]$$Wcm41 Komi: -15; Prisoners: :b100:, :w1:
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Continuing... If I end in sente locally, I think I have to enter Black's framework. I can not win by mutually building territory. My current thinking is mainly around Q17.
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[go]$$Wcm41 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Actually, this seems better than what I had planned, because it makes white less solid and leaves me the monkey jump for later.
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[go]$$Wcm41 Komi: -15; Prisoners: :b100:, :w1:
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Since Jedo answered today and I am off to my usual Saturday 'Go followed by drinking' schedule in a few minutes, I will go ahead with my thinking up to now. I will be well punished for my lax attitude if Black takes my idea apart! :blackeye:
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[go]$$Wcm41 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I really was not sure what to do here. My first instinct was to hane on either side, but the aji of that stone is annoying that this seemed like the honte. Loose plan:

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[go]$$Wcm41 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
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[go]$$Wcm41 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Wcm51 Komi: -15; Prisoners: :b100:, :w1:
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Outside not in. I think Black is in danger of playing too conservatively here. The R14 stone is still not completely extinguished, so :b50: does not look really efficient.
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[go]$$Wcm51 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Makes sense. I wonder if my last move was too passive (it certainly looks instinctively wrong), but it looked like haneing on either side just left my shape so weak and and mangled. As for now?

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[go]$$Wcm51 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
:b54: is my way of fixing the aji of a while reducing white's moyo.
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[go]$$Wcm51 Komi: -15; Prisoners: :b100:, :w1:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Wcm51 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 131. ez4u vs Jedo

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[go]$$Wcm51 Komi: -15; Prisoners: :b100:, :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . 5 . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . X , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . X . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O O X . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I believe that if Black invades at N17, I can handle it with N16. We may have to find out. Otherwise I want to stretch out here hoping that play around the stone on J16 produces the opportunity to patch the gap between my two stones on the left and my center position.
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Re: 131. ez4u vs Jedo

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[go]$$Wcm51 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . X , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . X . X X O O . . . . . 6 . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O O X . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

White's result here was probably too good, but time to move on. I played this move as opposed to G14, my other main consideration, because it is practically double sente; if white gets it, it seems like I need another move to reinforce that group or risk white digging out my base by pulling out that stone. This move stops that problem, and also starts to push into white's moyo.
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Re: 131. ez4u vs Jedo

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[go]$$Wcm51 Komi: -15; Prisoners: :b100:, :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . 5 . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . 7 . X , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . X . X X O O . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O O X . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

It looks like we will engage in some mutual destruction. I can not see a particularly fruitful way of answering :b56: directly. So let's prompt for a reaction on the top, and see whether we can build something that makes sense overall. If Black ignores this to play again on the right, it could get quite exciting! :rambo:
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[go]$$Wcm51 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . 8 . . . O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . O . X , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . X . X X O O . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O O X . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This move is almost a probe to see what his intentions are. I assume he's going to cut, but perhaps he just intends to press me down and connect his groups? This was the other move I considered:

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[go]$$Wcm51 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . 7 . X , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 8 . O . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . X . X X O O . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O O X . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


but I couldn't fine a positive continuation for me, and if he just hanes to cut now I can always do that later. In addition, I'd like to keep the black hoshi stone strong if possible to keep his white group on the upper right weak.
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[go]$$Wcm51 Komi: -15; Prisoners: :b100:, :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X 9 . . O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . O . X , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . X . X X O O . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O O X . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Let's do it! Black has various ways to answer. I expect to adapt as necessary. I am willing to give up the two left-side stones in exchange for the upper left corner, but not otherwise. :rambo:
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[go]$$Wcm51 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X O . . O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X , . . O 0 X , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . X . X . X X O O . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X O O X . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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