131. ez4u vs Jedo

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Re: 131. ez4u vs Jedo

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[go]$$Wcm41 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X X O O O O . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X O O X . . X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X X O . O X . O . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X . . . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . . . . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X . X . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . X . X . . . 0 O . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O . . X . O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X O . . X . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Ok, I think he has to give me something here. I assume he;s going to cut next?
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[go]$$Wcm41 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X X 7 O O O . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X 6 X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X O O X . . X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X X O . O X . O . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X . . . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . . . . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X . X . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . X . X . . . X O . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O 3 1 X 6 O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O . 2 4 O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X O . . X . 5 . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

:b4: is the key move here, and I think it's necessary. Seems like he'll have to give up those three stones, but maybe he has a stronger resistance?
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[go]$$Wcm41 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X X 7 O O O . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X 6 X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X O O X . . X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X X O . O X . O . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X . . . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . . . . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X . X . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . 1 . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . X . X . . . X O . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O . . X . O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O . 2 . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X O . . X . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This might be enough to guarantee grabbing a few stones. Still thinking about when to play that clamp up top
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Re: 131. ez4u vs Jedo

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[go]$$Wcm51 Komi: -15; Prisoners: :b100:, :w3:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X X O O O O . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X O O X . . X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X X O . O X . O . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X . . . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . . . . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X . X . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . X . X . . . X O . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O . 1 X . O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O . . . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X O . . X . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

The only move IMHO. Now what does Black want to do with it? I think the toughest resistance may be the atari at M3 next.
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Re: 131. ez4u vs Jedo

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[go]$$Wcm51 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X X O O O O . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X O O X . . X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X X O . O X . O . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X . . . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . . . . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X . X . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . X . X . . . X O . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O . O X . O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O . 2 . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X O . . X . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 131. ez4u vs Jedo

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[go]$$Wcm51 Komi: -15; Prisoners: :b100:, :w3:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X X O O O O . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X O O X . . X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X X O . O X . O . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X . . . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . . . . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X . X . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . X . X . . . X O . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O 3 O X . O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O . X . O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X O . . X . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I think that I can play :w10: below in sente, and "a" as well. So I am willing to mix it up here and see where we go. If :b1: at "b" instead, I expect to play at 1 and then "c".
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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X X O O O O . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X O O X . . X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X X O . O X . O . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X . . . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . . . . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X . X . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . c O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . X . X . . . X O b O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . 0 O O O X 2 O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O . X 1 O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X O . . X 4 3 9 8 O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . 5 6 7 a . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Wcm51 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X X O O O O . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X O O X . . X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X X O . O X . O . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X . . . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . . . . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X . X . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . X . X . . . X O . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O O O X . O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O . X 4 O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X O . . X . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This seems to be miai.
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[go]$$Wcm51 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X X O O O O . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X O O X . . X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X X O . O X . O . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X . . . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . . . . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X . X . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . X . X . . . X O a O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O 3 O X 6 O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O . X 4 O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X O . . X . 5 . b O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This way I have a or b miai to save my stones.

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[go]$$Wcm51 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X X O O O O . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X O O X . . X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X X O . O X . O . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X . . . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . . . . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X . X . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . X . X . . . X O . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O 3 O X 5 O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O . X 4 O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X O . . X 7 6 . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . 8 9 . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This variation is trickier.

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[go]$$Wcm51 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X X O O O O . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X O O X . . X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X X O . O X . O . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X . . . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . . . . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X . X . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . X . X . . . X O . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . 9 O O O X O O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O 7 X X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X O . . X O X 4 3 O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . 0 . 8 X 6 2 5 . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I think I can save these stones this way (white's two stones end up with a shortage of liberties if he tries to block), and although I've lost some of my points on the bottom, I think white has lost more
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[go]$$Wcm51 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X X O O O O . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X O O X . . X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X X O . O X . O . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X . . . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . . . . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X . X . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . X . X . . . X O . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O O O X 5 O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O . X X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X O . . X . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Wcm51 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X X O O O O . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X O O X . . X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X X O . O X . O . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X . . . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . . . . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X . X . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . 6 . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . X . X . . . X O 7 O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O O O X O O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O . X X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X O . . X 8 . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Sadly, it doesn't look like I can pull out those stones with wrecking my left side:
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[go]$$Wcm51 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X X O O O O . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X O O X . . X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X X O . O X . O . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X . . . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . . . . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X . X . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . X . X . . . X O . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O O O X 5 O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O . X X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X O . . X 7 6 0 9 O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . 8 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm51 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X X O O O O . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X O O X . . X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X X O . O X . O . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X . . . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . . . . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X . X . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . X . X . . . X O . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . 7 5 O O O X O O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O 3 X X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X O . . X O X X O O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . 6 . 4 X 2 X 1 . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

My area gets wrecked, and I think all of white's groups are fine.
So now:
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[go]$$Wcm51 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X X O O O O . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X O O X . . X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X X O . O X . O . . . . 0 O X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X . . . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . . . . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X . X . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . 6 . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . X . X . . . X O 7 O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O O O X O O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O . X X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X O . . X 8 9 . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 131. ez4u vs Jedo

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[go]$$Wcm51 Komi: -15; Prisoners: :b100:, :w3:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X X O O O O . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X O O X . . X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X X O . O X . O . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X . . . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . . . . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X . X . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . X . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . X . X . . . X O O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O O O X O O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O . X X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X O . . X X 9 . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 131. ez4u vs Jedo

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[go]$$Wcm51 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X X O O O O . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X O O X . . X X . . . . X . . |
$$ | O X X O . O X . O . . . . 0 O X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X . . . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . . . . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X . X . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . X . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . X . X . . . X O O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O O O X O O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O . X X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X O . . X X O . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

On second thought, the hane under ends in gote since I lost a liberty, so I think I'll grab this point.
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Re: 131. ez4u vs Jedo

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[go]$$Wcm61 Komi: -15; Prisoners: :b100:, :w3:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X X O O O O . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X O O X . . X X 1 . . . X . . |
$$ | O X X O . O X . O . . . . X O X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X . . . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . . . . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X . X . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . X . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . X . X . . . X O O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O O O X O O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O . X X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X O . . X X O . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Just reacting. Black definitely has some sente plays here.
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[go]$$Wcm61 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X X O O O O . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X O O X . . X X O . . . X . . |
$$ | O X X O . O X . O . . . 2 X O X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X . . . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . . . . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X . X . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . X . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . X . X . . . X O O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O O O X O O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O . X X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X O . . X X O . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 131. ez4u vs Jedo

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[go]$$Wcm61 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X X O O O O . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X O O X . . X X O . . . X . . |
$$ | O X X O . O X . O . . 3 X X O X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X . . . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . . . . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X . X . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . X . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . X . X . . . X O O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O O O X O O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O . X X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X O . . X X O . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Wcm61 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X X O O O O . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X O O X . . X X O . . . X . . |
$$ | O X X O . O X . O . . O X X O X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X . . . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . 4 . . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X . X . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . X . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . X . X . . . X O O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O O O X O O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O . X X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X O . . X X O . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

So actually I think this one is bigger, because connecting back up top is gote where as this move threats to make a one point jump to save my two stones and wreck some of the middle
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[go]$$Wcm61 Komi: -15; Prisoners: :b100:, :w3:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X X O O O O . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X O O X . . X X O . . . X . . |
$$ | O X X O . O X . O . . O X X O X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X . . 5 . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . X . . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X . X . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . X . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . X . X . . . X O O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O O O X O O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O . X X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X O . . X X O . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I think it is preferable to protect the center rather than capture the two stones. Pulling out the two stones will be gote for Black. If I capture the stones instead, I think that Black can reduce my center by at least that many points in sente.
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[go]$$Wcm61 Komi: -15; Prisoners: ,
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X X O O O O . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X O X X X O X X O . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X , X O O . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . X X O O X . . X X O . 6 . X . . |
$$ | O X X O . O X . O . . O X X O X . X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O . . . O . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . O . . . X . . |
$$ | . X O X . X X O O . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O X O O X . , . . O X . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . O X . . O . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O O . X . . O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . X . X . X . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . X . O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . X . X . . . X O O O X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O O O X O O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . X O . X X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X O . . X X O . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I think this move is worth about 9 points in gote, so it seems like the biggest move on the board to me right now.
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