136. Magicwand vs. Kirby - Fire, Strike, 2 stones again!

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[go]$$Wcm81 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-1
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , O X . X X X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . O X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . 3 . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O X O X . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X . . O X X . . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . . X X . O . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O . . O O O . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Wcm81 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , O X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . O X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O X O X . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X . . O X X . . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . . X X . O . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O . . O O O . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . 4 X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm81 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , O X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . O X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O X O X . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X . . O X X . . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . . X X . O . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . X . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O O X O . . O O O . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . 5 X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

timing of ko is very important. my ko on right was wrong timing but...that is how you win handycapped game.
his ko timing is also incorrect IMO. what ko threat does he have that will give him good result???
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after winning my ko i can kill his group with "a" so basically his only ko threat will be.... "c" which i can refuse and get sente to play "a"
every white groups are solid and strong.. my guess is that after this ko fight he will resign.
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[go]$$Wcm81 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-1
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , O X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . O X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . b . . . . . . . O O O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . a . . X O . X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O X O X . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X . . O X X . . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . . X X . O . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . X . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | O . O O X O . . O O O . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . O X X O c O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Wcm81 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , O X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . O X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O X O X . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X . . O X X . . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . . X X . O . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . 7 O X X O . X . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | 9 6 O O X O . . O O O . . . O . X . . |
$$ | 8 5 X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 0 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm91 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , O X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . O X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . 2 O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O . X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O X O X . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X . . O X X . . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . . X X . O . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . X . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | O C O O X O . . O O O . . . O . X . . |
$$ | C O X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 1 X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Let's see if I can get some local benefit from this ko.
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My 91 will be c8 instead of taking go
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[go]$$Wcm91 Prisoner Count: B-2 W-2
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . O X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . X O . X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O X O X . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X . . O X X . . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . . X X . O . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . X . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | O C O O X O . . O O O . . . O . X . . |
$$ | X O X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Ok.

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[go]$$Wcm91 Prisoner Count: B-3 W-2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , O X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . O X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . |
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$$ | . . O . . X O . X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O X O X . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X . . O X X . . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . . X X . O . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . X . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | O 2 O O X O . . O O O . . . O . X . . |
$$ | X . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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R17
i already gained enough. This is more than enough.
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[go]$$Wcm91 Prisoner Count: B-3 W-2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X . . . 3 . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , O X . X X X 4 . . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . O X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 6 O . . X O . X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O X O X . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X . . O X X . . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . . X X . O . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . X . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | O 2 O O X O . . O O O . . . O . X . . |
$$ | X 5 X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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C9 and if you take ko i play s16 as ko threat

i think i updated prisoner count...but double check on it.
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[go]$$Wcm91 Prisoner Count: B-4 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , O X . X X X X 9 . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . O X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . 7 . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . X O . X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O X O X . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X . . O X X . . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . . X X . O . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . O O X X O . X . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | O 8 O O X O . . O O O . . . O . X . . |
$$ | X . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm91 Prisoner Count: B-4 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , O X . X X X X O . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . O X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . X O . X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O X O X . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X . . O X X . . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . . X X . O . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | 0 O O X X O . X . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | C X O O X O . . O O O . . . O . X . . |
$$ | X . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Man, I do not know what to do. I think I've probably gotten a few stones weaker from lack of study. But I do not want to delay the game further. I've made MW wait long enough.
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changed black prisoner to 5.
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[go]$$Wcm101 Prisoner Count: B-5 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . O O X . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , O X . X X X X O . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . O X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . X O . X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O X O X . . . . X . X O . |
$$ | . . X . . O X X . . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . . X X . O . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | X O O X X O . X . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . X O O X O . . O O O . . . O . X . . |
$$ | X . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i probably get sente out of top right and it should seal my win.
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[go]$$Wcm101 Prisoner Count: B-5 W-3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . |
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[go]$$Wcm101 Prisoner Count: B-5 W-3
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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