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Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

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Sorry, man, long weekend, been away. Will post a move by Wed.
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Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

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[go]$$Bcm120 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O . X . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O 6 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . . X . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X . . . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Little more pushing.
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[go]$$Bcm120 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O . X . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . . X . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X 7 . . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
i had alot of time to think about this move, the break helps me see some better moves
my second choice was
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[go]$$Bcm120 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O . X 7 . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O 6 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . . X . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X . . . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
it gets alot of points and is very solid, great local move

here are my thoughts on my move
it gets alot of center, and handicap games are based off of a good center because thats where white gets most of his points from (see internetgoschool handicap lessons)
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[go]$$Bcm120 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O . X . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O 6 . 0 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . . X 8 . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X 7 . 9 . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
its good shape to :study:
standing still means going backwards
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Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

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Sorry for the long delay.
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[go]$$Bcm120 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O . X . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . . X 8 . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X . . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Needed to make sure I couldn't be immediately cut. Been a long couple weeks at work, so it was hard to take some time to read.
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[go]$$Bcm120 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O 9 X . . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . . X O . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X . . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
cut first think later :study:
standing still means going backwards
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Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

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Yikes, that's really awkward shape.
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Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

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[go]$$Bcm120 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O X X 0 . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . . X O . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X . . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Hmmm ... did I misread? Quite possible ...

However, there might be a good opportunity to try and kill the top black group, now ... let's see how this plays out.
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[go]$$Bcm130 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . 1 . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O X X O . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . . X O . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X . . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
i need to get some liberties here i only got 2 right now and the nobi is good for that and it takes away his sente because if he plays there it would be atari... simple enough see ya
standing still means going backwards
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[go]$$Bcm130 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . X . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O X X O . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . . X O . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X 2 . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Yeah ... I guess this isn't going well ... :)

Forcing move first. Connect next move.
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[go]$$Bcm130 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . X . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O X X O . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . 3 X O . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
standing still means going backwards
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[go]$$Bcm130 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . X . . 4 . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O X X O . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . X X O . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Come get some! :)
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[go]$$Bcm130 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . X 5 . O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O X X O . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . X X O . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
yeah i wanna attack his group right now big time, but i must be patient,
this move threatens the cut wich will leave his group baseless... i cant wait :rambo:
so many ways to cut
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[go]$$Bcm130 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . X 5 . 4 . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O X X O . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O O a . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . X X O . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O b . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O c . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
standing still means going backwards
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[go]$$Bcm130 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O X . X . . X . X X . O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O 6 . X O . |
$$ | . . . , O X X . . O O X X O . X . O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . O O . X O O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . X X O . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O . . O X O . . |
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Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

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[go]$$Bcm130 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
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