Oust - Topazg vs Mark Steere

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Re: Oust - Topazg vs Mark Steere

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[go]$$Bcm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | . . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | 3 . 3 3 X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . 3 . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O . O |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . O . . 1 . |
$$ | X . . . X . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X 1 . O |
$$ -----------------------[/go]

In order to hang onto sente, you have to take hostages such as A9 and L1, i.e. groups you can kill whenever you want. Otherwise sente will change hands every few turns.
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[go]$$Bcm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | 4 . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . 3 3 X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . 3 . . . O . . O . |
$$ | 4 . . . . . . O O . O |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . O . . 1 . |
$$ | X . . . X . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X 1 . O |
$$ -----------------------[/go]
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Re: Oust - Topazg vs Mark Steere

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[go]$$Bcm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | 4 . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . 3 3 X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . 3 . . . O . . O . |
$$ | 4 . . . 5 . . O O . O |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . O . . 1 . |
$$ | X . . . X . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X 1 . O |
$$ -----------------------[/go]
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Re: Oust - Topazg vs Mark Steere

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What happened at move 41? How does one get from this:

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[go]$$Bcm31 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | . O . . . . O . . 4 . |
$$ | . O . . X . . 4 . O . |
$$ | 2 . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . O O 0 . . . O O . 6 |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . 7 . . O . |
$$ | 2 . O . O . . X . . 8 |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . O . O O . |
$$ | X . . . 5 . . 0 . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X . . O |
$$ -----------------------[/go]


to this:

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[go]$$Bcm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | . O . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . O . . X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . O O O . . . O O . O |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . O . . 1 . |
$$ | X . . . X . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X 1 . O |
$$ -----------------------[/go]
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Re: Oust - Topazg vs Mark Steere

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Thank you for your question, tj. I went back and edited move 41 for clarity.
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[go]$$Bcm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | 4 . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . 3 3 X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . 3 . . . O . . O . |
$$ | 4 . . . 5 . . O O . O |
$$ | . 6 . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . O . . 1 . |
$$ | X . . . X . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X 1 . O |
$$ -----------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | 4 . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . 3 3 X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . 3 . . . O . . O . |
$$ | 4 . . . 5 . . O O . O |
$$ | . 6 . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . 7 . . |
$$ | . X . X . . O . . 1 . |
$$ | X . . . X . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X 1 . O |
$$ -----------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | 4 . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . 3 3 X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . 3 . . . O . . O . |
$$ | 4 . . . 5 . . O O . O |
$$ | . 6 . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . 7 . . |
$$ | . X . X . . O . . 1 . |
$$ | X . . . X . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . O . . X 8 X 1 . O |
$$ -----------------------[/go]
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Re: Oust - Topazg vs Mark Steere

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How do you play Hex Oust, Mark? That is, how do you handle viewing the boards when you're playing online?

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[go]$$Wcm48 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | O . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . X . . . O . . O . |
$$ | O . . . X . . O O . O |
$$ | . O . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . X . X . 2 O . . X . |
$$ | X . . . X 2 2 . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . X 1 X X . O |
$$ -----------------------[/go]
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Re: Oust - Topazg vs Mark Steere

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[go]$$Bcm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | 4 . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . 3 3 X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . 3 . . . O . . O . |
$$ | 4 . . . 5 . . O O . O |
$$ | . 6 . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . 7 . . |
$$ | . X . X . . O . 9 1 . |
$$ | X . . . X . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . X 1 . O |
$$ -----------------------[/go]



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[go]$$Bcm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | 4 . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . 3 3 X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . 3 . . . O . . O . |
$$ | 4 . . . 5 . . O O . O |
$$ | . 6 . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . 7 . . |
$$ | . X . X . . O . 9 1 . |
$$ | X . . . X . . . 1 . 9 |
$$ | . . O . . X . X 1 . O |
$$ -----------------------[/go]


It's still possible for me to lose sente and for Topazg to break out from the upper right, consuming my diagonal of singletons. I'm trying not to feel confident because confidence is just bad karma in Oust.
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hyperpape wrote:How do you play Hex Oust, Mark? That is, how do you handle viewing the boards when you're playing online?

Sorry, I don't understand your question.

Hex Oust is implemented at the following sites:
1. Arty Sandler's iggc.
2. Christian Freeling's MindSports.
3. Wesley Tanaka's gwc.
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[go]$$Bcm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | 4 . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . 3 3 X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . 3 . . . O . . O . |
$$ | 4 . . . 5 . . O O . O |
$$ | . 6 . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . 7 . . |
$$ | . X . X . . O . 9 1 . |
$$ | X 0 . . X . . . 1 . 9 |
$$ | . . O . . X . X 1 . O |
$$ -----------------------[/go]


Nono, feel confident, this is definitely a snafu for me...
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That's the answer I needed. I didn't realize the game was implemented at those places.
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[go]$$Bcm51 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | O . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . X . . . O . . O . |
$$ | O . . . X . . O O . O |
$$ | . O . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . X 1 X . . O . X X . |
$$ | X . . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . . O . . X . X X . O |
$$ -----------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm51 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | O . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . O . O . |
$$ | O . X . . . O . . O . |
$$ | O . . . X . . O O . O |
$$ | . O . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . X 1 X . . O . X X 1 |
$$ | X . . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . . O . . X . X X . . |
$$ -----------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm51 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | O . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . O . O . |
$$ | . 1 X . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . . X . . O O . O |
$$ | . O . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . X 1 X . . O . X X 1 |
$$ | X . . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . . O . . X . X X . . |
$$ -----------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm51 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | O . . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | 1 . X X X . . O . O . |
$$ | . 1 X . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . . X . . O O . O |
$$ | . O . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . X 1 X . . O . X X 1 |
$$ | X . . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . . O . . X . X X . . |
$$ -----------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm51 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg
$$ -----------------------
$$ | O 2 . . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X . . O . O . |
$$ | . 1 X . . . O . . O . |
$$ | . . . . X . . O O . O |
$$ | . O . . . X . . . O . |
$$ | O . O . . . X . . O . |
$$ | O . O . O . . X . . O |
$$ | . . . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . X 1 X . . O . X X 1 |
$$ | X 2 . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . . O . . X . X X . . |
$$ -----------------------[/go]
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