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Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

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[go]$$Bcm150 Prisoners: :b5: :w2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X . X . . X . X X . O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O . X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X . . O O X X O . X . O . |
$$ | . X O X O O . O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O . O X . X X . X O X 8 O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


No reason not to take this.
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Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

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[go]$$Bcm150 Prisoners: :b5: :w2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X . X . . X . X X . O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O . X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X . . O O X X O . X . O . |
$$ | . X O X O O . O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O . O X . X X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X 9 . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'm blocking off access to the center, I'm thinking

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[go]$$Bcm150 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X . X . . X . X X . O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O . X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X . . O O X X O b X . O . |
$$ | . X O X O O . O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O . O X . X X . X O X 8 O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X 9 0 X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . a X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


followed by a-b
:study:
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Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

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The other connect was better because this one ends in gote. White can't play 59 push because there's a ladder.
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Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

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[go]$$Bcm150 Prisoners: :b5: :w2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X . X . . X . X X . O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O . X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X . . O O X X O 0 X . O . |
$$ | . X O X O O . O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O . O X . X X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

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[go]$$Bcm160 Prisoners: :b5: :w2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X . X . . X . X X 1 O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O . X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X . . O O X X O O X . O . |
$$ | . X O X O O . O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O . O X . X X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


i got my a & b backwards on my last diagram
i gotta be more careful
but now we have something like this

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[go]$$Bcm150 Prisoners: :b5: :w2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X . X . . X . X X 1 O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O 2 X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X . . O O X X O O X . O . |
$$ | . X O X O O . O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O . O X . X X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . 3 O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


this solidifies my center area and now im on the look out for the biggest plays
i can find.
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Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

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[go]$$Bcm160 Prisoners: :b5: :w2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X . X . . X . X X X O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O 2 X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X . . O O X X O O X . O . |
$$ | . X O X O O . O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O . O X . X X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Need ... more ... points ... :mrgreen:
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[go]$$Bcm160 Prisoners: :b5: :w2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X . X . . X . X X X O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O O X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X . . O O X X O O X . O . |
$$ | . X O X O O . O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O . O X . X X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X 3 . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


this is a good example of good sente, im making my group solid and im threatening to push through and make broken shape for white, its getting close to the endgame so i gotta make sure i push out all the points i can :rambo:
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Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

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[go]$$Bcm160 Prisoners: :b5: :w2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X . X . . X . X X X O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O O X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X . . O O X X O O X . O . |
$$ | . X O X O O . O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O . O X . X X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X X 4 . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Still just responding ... no openings yet ...
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[go]$$Bcm160 Prisoners: :b5: :w2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X . X . . X . X X X O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O O X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X . . O O X X O O X . O . |
$$ | . X O X O O . O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O . O X . X X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . 5 X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


after a long look at the board this is what i came up with, it isn't much or a big fighting move but it blocks off territory and its sente :D

right now im just taking it move by move, if i stay focused i can keep him from going crazy on me and win this game :study:
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Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

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I think I would tenuki here as W because there are a lot of point swhich are more sente and if W is really behind (I didn't count) the worst think is to follow B's plans
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Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

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Personally that one looks like a bit painful to ignore because the capture is quite big for both sides (especially for black because then he can connect back to B18 since there's no way white will risk his group through the ko).
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Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

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illluck wrote:
Personally that one looks like a bit painful to ignore because the capture is quite big for both sides (especially for black because then he can connect back to B18 since there's no way white will risk his group through the ko).


But just because the follow-up is sente doesn't mean the move is sente, right?
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Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

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No, but it makes the move larger than what it would be had the follow-up not been big/sente.
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Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

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by my count black is ahead more than 10 points and there is no way white can win this game.
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Re: #147 Marcus vs 1986

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[go]$$Bcm160 Prisoners: :b5: :w2:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X . X . . X . X X X O . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O X O X . . . X O O O X O . |
$$ | . O O , O X X . . O O X X O O X . O . |
$$ | . X O X O O . O O . X . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . O X . X O . O X . X X . X O X O O . |
$$ | . X X . X . O X . X X O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . O . X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X X X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O X . . O O X . X . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . X O O O O X O O . X . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O O X X X X X O , . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . O X O O O X X . O X X O . . |
$$ | . X X . X O X O X X . . . . X O O O . |
$$ | . O . X O O O O . . X . . . . X . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Is this the opportunity I was looking for? Let's see ...
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