San-ren-sei test result, what does it mean?

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San-ren-sei test result, what does it mean?

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searching around for resources I came across this site http://sanrensei.info/
there is a choose the best move test,and i took it and got this result:
Your score is 220 from 300

You know a lot about using influence, but you don't like to play all-or-nothing games or games where you must kill your opponent's group inside of your moyo.
We might recommend that you use other influence-oriented fusekis, such as the Chinese family of fusekis (Low, High, Mini), takamoku-based openings, or tengen.
All of these openings are more flexible than san-ren-sei and it's usually possible to switch from influence to territory if the position requires it


it says I know about using influence but I don't even know what influence in Go means. Can someone point me in the right direction here as to what the eval means. Thanks.
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Re: San-ren-sei test result, what does it mean?

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Your score is 240 from 300

San-ren-sei is a perfect choice for you!
We cannot promise that you will win all of your games when you use it, but we are sure that every game you play where san-ren-sei appears will be very exciting and enjoyable for you!

Awesome, I'll start sanrensei now :)
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Xaos wrote:it says I know about using influence but I don't even know what influence in Go means. Can someone point me in the right direction here as to what the eval means. Thanks.

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tchan001 wrote:
Xaos wrote:it says I know about using influence but I don't even know what influence in Go means. Can someone point me in the right direction here as to what the eval means. Thanks.

http://senseis.xmp.net/?Influence
http://www.yutopian.com/go/bookeg/PAY07.html


even that senseis definition is a bit ambiguous, but thanks, i'll look through the references they have..
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Let me introduce Robert Jasiek:
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Uberdude wrote:Let me introduce Robert Jasiek:


wow never saw that page thanks..
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Your score is 215 from 300

You know a lot about using influence, but you don't like to play all-or-nothing games or games where you must kill your opponent's group inside of your moyo.
We might recommend that you use other influence-oriented fusekis, such as the Chinese family of fusekis (Low, High, Mini), takamoku-based openings, or tengen.
All of these openings are more flexible than san-ren-sei and it's usually possible to switch from influence to territory if the position requires it.


Meh. My understanding of influence is primitive at best. I must go look up the takamoku based openings though, have never heard of them before.

That I score this highly in the test given I've neither played nor studied nor played against the san-ren-sei makes me suspicious that I'm being sold something. :P
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Re: San-ren-sei test result, what does it mean?

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Your score is 225 from 300

San-ren-sei is a perfect choice for you!
We cannot promise that you will win all of your games when you use it, but we are sure that every game you play where san-ren-sei appears will be very exciting and enjoyable for you!
:o

For me as a mere KGS 9k with question mark this seems surprising.
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I got 260 out of 300... mostly I just kept asking myself "What kind of crazy move would takemiya play here..."
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Re: San-ren-sei test result, what does it mean?

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FWIW I answered randomly, without even looking at the positions, and got 200 out of 300! So I guess that says something about what this "test" means.
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gowan wrote:FWIW I answered randomly, without even looking at the positions, and got 200 out of 300! So I guess that says something about what this "test" means.


Darn, I guess I'll have to stick with double sansan...
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gowan wrote:FWIW I answered randomly, without even looking at the positions, and got 200 out of 300! So I guess that says something about what this "test" means.

No it doesn't 0- 300 isn't skill its how well you could use sanrensei. if we took that test randomly 100 times i would expect the average to be close to 150, not 60.
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gowan wrote:FWIW I answered randomly, without even looking at the positions, and got 200 out of 300! So I guess that says something about what this "test" means.


Here is another hint:

It was tested on different level players from 20-kyu to 7-dan, but most accurate for single digit kyus.


Sounds random to me. ;)

Seriously, what does "most accurate" mean? How would you validate the test results? Not by rank, surely. :)
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Bill Spight wrote:Sounds random to me. ;)

Seriously, what does "most accurate" mean? How would you validate the test results? Not by rank, surely. :)


Perhaps based on how much they actually liked sanrensei?
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FWIW, I scored 285. ;)
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