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Re: What was your shortest game?
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:06 am
by Exologist
Magicwand wrote:you can post them and we might be able to help you on that joseky?
Well, I already know what I did wrong. Just a small mix up in the order of moves (one wrong order can destroy everything). Connect before cut is all. But if you would like to be amused:
(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[0.50]TM[600]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[Twss]PB[Exologist]WR[2k]BR[3k]DT[2010-08-19]PC[The KGS Go Server at
http://www.gokgs.com/]RE[W+Resign]
;B[pd]BL[596.924]C[Twss [2k\]: hi
Twss [2k\]: hf
]
;W[dp]WL[596.878]C[Exologist [3k\]: hey gg
]
;B[ed]BL[589.548]
;W[pp]WL[594.685]
;B[qn]BL[584.899]
;W[qk]WL[583.67]
;B[qq]BL[576.675]
;W[qp]WL[580.326]
;B[pq]BL[565.578]
;W[oq]WL[553.399]
(;B[rp]BL[554.639]
;W[ro]WL[550.693]
(;B[op]BL[552.68]
;W[rq]WL[548.362]
;B[rr]BL[519.503]
;W[sp]WL[546.351]
;B[nq]BL[497.943]
;W[or]WL[543.88]
;B[pr]BL[496.916]
;W[ps]WL[542.075]
;B[qr]BL[495.85]
;W[nr]WL[539.656]C[Twss [2k\]: thx
Exologist [3k\]: thx
])
(;B[rq]
;W[qo]
(;B[op]
;W[nq]
;B[rn]
;W[oo]
;B[so]
;W[np])
(;B[nq]
;W[op]
;B[or])))
(;B[rq]
(;W[op]
;B[rp])
(;W[rp]
;B[op]
;W[oo]
;B[np]
;W[pn]
;B[nq])))
Re: What was your shortest game?
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:53 am
by daniel_the_smith
My shortest game (by # of moves) was at the first round of the US Open this year. I played one move. My opponent never answered.
Probably because she had, as it turned out, never left Japan.
Re: What was your shortest game?
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:27 am
by xed_over
kirkmc wrote:Ok, when I post a game, I say +/- 1 stone, no guests. Yet I get plenty of people challenging me who do not meet those requirements. I thought it was because they were getting my posted game via automatch. So they're not? They're just stupid (or can't read)?
You can set your automatch preferences to be just that: +/- 1 stone, no guests
Then you'll only get those players, and no random challenges.
Re: What was your shortest game?
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:57 am
by kirkmc
xed_over wrote:kirkmc wrote:Ok, when I post a game, I say +/- 1 stone, no guests. Yet I get plenty of people challenging me who do not meet those requirements. I thought it was because they were getting my posted game via automatch. So they're not? They're just stupid (or can't read)?
You can set your automatch preferences to be just that: +/- 1 stone, no guests
Then you'll only get those players, and no random challenges.
So why do I get seemingly random challenges when I don't have automatch on? And in some cases, the people keep coming back, a few seconds later, as if it were automatic...
Re: What was your shortest game?
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:58 am
by daniel_the_smith
There's no IQ or manners test required to play on KGS.
Re: What was your shortest game?
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:23 pm
by ethanb
FlamingMetroidzd wrote:Magicwand wrote:you can post them and we might be able to help you on that joseky?
Well, I already know what I did wrong. Just a small mix up in the order of moves (one wrong order can destroy everything). Connect before cut is all. But if you would like to be amused:
(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[0.50]TM[600]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[Twss]PB[Exologist]WR[2k]BR[3k]DT[2010-08-19]PC[The KGS Go Server at
http://www.gokgs.com/]RE[W+Resign]
;B[pd]BL[596.924]C[Twss [2k\]: hi
Twss [2k\]: hf
]
;W[dp]WL[596.878]C[Exologist [3k\]: hey gg
]
;B[ed]BL[589.548]
;W[pp]WL[594.685]
;B[qn]BL[584.899]
;W[qk]WL[583.67]
;B[qq]BL[576.675]
;W[qp]WL[580.326]
;B[pq]BL[565.578]
;W[oq]WL[553.399]
(;B[rp]BL[554.639]
;W[ro]WL[550.693]
(;B[op]BL[552.68]
;W[rq]WL[548.362]
;B[rr]BL[519.503]
;W[sp]WL[546.351]
;B[nq]BL[497.943]
;W[or]WL[543.88]
;B[pr]BL[496.916]
;W[ps]WL[542.075]
;B[qr]BL[495.85]
;W[nr]WL[539.656]C[Twss [2k\]: thx
Exologist [3k\]: thx
])
(;B[rq]
;W[qo]
(;B[op]
;W[nq]
;B[rn]
;W[oo]
;B[so]
;W[np])
(;B[nq]
;W[op]
;B[or])))
(;B[rq]
(;W[op]
;B[rp])
(;W[rp]
;B[op]
;W[oo]
;B[np]
;W[pn]
;B[nq])))
Actually, I think you're off - if you play this hane and connect, you should clamp, not cut. The cut punishment starts with a descent (S3 instead of S4.) Both of those variations can be proper depending on the situation.
EDIT: just looked at your variation - after your hane and connect, if you cut (variation 1) I believe white can punish by atari first from P5 then extend. Big fight on the outside, but black shouldn't be able to fight effectively as he needs to come back and live in the corner.
Re: What was your shortest game?
Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:37 am
by GrB
FlamingMetroidzd wrote:Magicwand wrote:you can post them and we might be able to help you on that joseky?
Well, I already know what I did wrong. Just a small mix up in the order of moves (one wrong order can destroy everything). Connect before cut is all. But if you would like to be amused:
(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[0.50]TM[600]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[Twss]PB[Exologist]WR[2k]BR[3k]DT[2010-08-19]PC[The KGS Go Server at
http://www.gokgs.com/]RE[W+Resign]
;B[pd]BL[596.924]C[Twss [2k\]: hi
Twss [2k\]: hf
]
;W[dp]WL[596.878]C[Exologist [3k\]: hey gg
]
;B[ed]BL[589.548]
;W[pp]WL[594.685]
;B[qn]BL[584.899]
;W[qk]WL[583.67]
;B[qq]BL[576.675]
;W[qp]WL[580.326]
;B[pq]BL[565.578]
;W[oq]WL[553.399]
(;B[rp]BL[554.639]
;W[ro]WL[550.693]
(;B[op]BL[552.68]
;W[rq]WL[548.362]
;B[rr]BL[519.503]
;W[sp]WL[546.351]
;B[nq]BL[497.943]
;W[or]WL[543.88]
;B[pr]BL[496.916]
;W[ps]WL[542.075]
;B[qr]BL[495.85]
;W[nr]WL[539.656]C[Twss [2k\]: thx
Exologist [3k\]: thx
])
(;B[rq]
;W[qo]
(;B[op]
;W[nq]
;B[rn]
;W[oo]
;B[so]
;W[np])
(;B[nq]
;W[op]
;B[or])))
(;B[rq]
(;W[op]
;B[rp])
(;W[rp]
;B[op]
;W[oo]
;B[np]
;W[pn]
;B[nq])))
actually, you should play your move 11 at s3 to get the best result.
Re: What was your shortest game?
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:46 pm
by balmung
he was kind enough to review game with me after.
http://files.gokgs.com/games/2010/8/30/motmot-ErgoProxy.sgf
Re: What was your shortest game?
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:54 am
by simpkin
kirkmc wrote:xed_over wrote:kirkmc wrote:Ok, when I post a game, I say +/- 1 stone, no guests. Yet I get plenty of people challenging me who do not meet those requirements. I thought it was because they were getting my posted game via automatch. So they're not? They're just stupid (or can't read)?
You can set your automatch preferences to be just that: +/- 1 stone, no guests
Then you'll only get those players, and no random challenges.
So why do I get seemingly random challenges when I don't have automatch on? And in some cases, the people keep coming back, a few seconds later, as if it were automatic...
Automatch and the non-auto games are completely different, entirely separate.
If you set automatch, it will pair you up according to your settings with someone else whose settings make them an appropriate match. (That is, they fit your grade settings and you fit theirs, and you have both said the same time settings.)
If you set up a game, anyone can, and often does, challenge you. Irrespective of the things you say in the note, which they may or may not be unable to read (languages, etc), and which are in no way "fixed". I have no idea what is going through the minds of people who repeat requests, but it is not actually automatic.