70. Suji (14k) vs. SinK (17k)

Aphelion · Post by **Aphelion** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:43 pm

Suji:

dfan · Post by **dfan** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:44 am

Suji:

Suji · Post by **Suji** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 3:38 pm

Aphelion:

dfan:

Suji · Post by **Suji** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 4:26 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc Move 16 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . W . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . O . , . . . . O , . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Okay, I some initial analysis, and the results were interesting. No, I haven't counted yet, and I don't want to. I think that the results would scare me. The main reason for this move is that I think that the bottom is relatively settled. Another reason is that he can't do much damage to my corner. If I were SinK, I'd be worried about the bottom right more than the bottom left. Plus, he still has to worry about my pincer stone.

So, where to move?

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc Analysis of possible moves. $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . b . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . b . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . a . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . a . . | $$ | . . . c . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . O . , . . . . O , . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I had thought about any of the three 'a' points, which could serve as a ladder breaker if I decided to try and activate the aji from the pincer stone.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc Analysis of either 'a'. $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . a . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . a . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . 8 . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X 2 3 9 . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . 1 4 X . O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . O . 5 6 . . . O , . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . 7 X . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

And so forth, the ladder doesn't work, however I found that my group in the lower right would be severely hampered and it would have to scramble to find life. I feel that this would be terrible for me. I would feel cramped and behind the rest of the game and have to scramble to catch up. Bad idea.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc Analysis of either 'b'. $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . b . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . b . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . O . , . . . . O , . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Basically, my first idea that I had at the beginning with the high approach, I don't like it anymore. This is because I think that I need some quick cash. One reason I played the low approach over the high approach. Another is that I'm more comfortable with it.

My plans:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc One plan. $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . W . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . O . , . . . . O , . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

If he pincers:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc Beware of Pincers. $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . W . 3 2 . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X 4 . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . O . , . . . . O , . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

and follow the joseki that looks like so:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc If he pincers. $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . W X X O . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . O . , . . . . O , . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Finally, my last move 'c'.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc I didn't like this. $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . c . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . O . , . . . . O , . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

A few reasons why I didn't like this.
1. He gets an approach on top to my top left stone.

A cursory analysis says that I'm already behind, and my goal is to at least make no more "obvious" mistakes, obvious to me that is. If he approaches my top left stone from the top, it's almost like handing him that side. That would be a no-no.

2. 'c' just doesn't feel right yet. I can't back this up with any analysis, but Araban said something about counting the number of spaces to the next stone, and that's the biggest move. Well, clearly the distance between to star point stones on the same side of the board is bigger than the one-point jump from the star stone to a star point stone on the other side.

3. My move feels more natural to me.

Maere · Post by **Maere** » Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:55 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc One plan. $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . W . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . O . , . . . . O , . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I'm beginning to see how this may turn out to be real fun for black. If black plays calmly like this, and then turns, for example to:

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc One plan. $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . W . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . O . , . . . . O , . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

(Well, no idea if it's the best move, somehow one point lower looks like it would strengthen white too much and further to the right seems not hard enough on white's shape.)
Next if white tries pushing to the right for more eyespace, black gets lots of points on the side. Escaping to the left will strengthen black's left group. Later on, it looks like black could get to build a nice framework towards the top and the side just by chasing that weak group. White's prospective territory on the top looks pretty thin so launching an attack there later on sounds possible, since he'll be too busy running away to defend his position there.

SinK · Post by **SinK** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 2:22 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc Move 17 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . O . , . . . . O , . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

amnal · Post by **amnal** » Sun Sep 19, 2010 3:00 pm

SinK · Post by **SinK** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:28 am

Man, I want to know what a 2 dan's opinion of the game so far is. Stupid "Hide" tags.

Suji · Post by **Suji** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:54 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc Move 18 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . W . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . O . , . . . . O , . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Better stick with my original plan.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc Another Possible Move. $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . W . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . O . , . . . . O , . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Honestly, I could have done this. However, I didn't read anything out, and I don't want too many weak groups. After his move, I'll assess the situation and come up with something to do.

dfan · Post by **dfan** » Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:52 pm

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[go]$$Wc Move 18 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . W x a . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . y . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . O . , . . . . O , . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This leaves a weak spot at a. In general, the three-space jump on the side is not as good as the two-space jump (x, or the super-long knight's move (x).

Honestly, I could have [invaded the right side]. However, I didn't read anything out, and I don't want too many weak groups.

Good!

SinK · Post by **SinK** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:46 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc Move 19 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . B . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . O . , . . . . O , . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Sweet. A free move to make pretty much where I like lets check out the options.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc Move 18 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . d . . O . d . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . a a . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . b . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . b , . . . . . , . . . . . c c . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . O . , . . . . O , . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

a - approach
b - jump in
c - extention
d - invasion

In the absence of any urgent moves I need to see which is bigger. The invasion options are clearly smaller and can be immediately ignored.

The extension maps out about 21pts of territory and an enemy invasion here is at a rough estimate worth about 15pts to Suji. So we'll call it 36pts.

Similarly the jump-in is worth about 24pts to me (adjusted up for the fact that there is more room for expansion thanks to his unsettled corner in the north). but Suji's extention down the same side gains him 21pts by my count (see below)

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc I count 21pts for suji from this move. $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . W . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | x . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | x x . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | x x x . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | x x x . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | x x x . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | x x x W . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | x x x . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | x x . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | x. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . O . , . . . . O , . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

The approach harder to read out since it depends how he responds. I am tempted to make things complicated again by playing it and hoping for a pincer but b just seems too big and comes with the added bonus of almost certainly forcing me into attacking the bottom left hand corner.

judicata · Post by **judicata** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:55 am

Suji · Post by **Suji** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 7:15 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc Move 20 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . W . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . O . , . . . . O , . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

My opponent made a good move. My lower left is slightly more important than my upper left. Thus, I am approaching his move from below. I expect this:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc Move 20 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . W . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . O . , . . . . O , . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

The reason I think that my lower left is more important is because of my pincer stone.

SinK · Post by **SinK** » Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:21 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc Move 21 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . B . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . O . , . . . . O , . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This is standard and since he'll want to do something about the corner I keep sente. Basically there isn't much else to look at I still want to play 3 in the diagram below but making a base for my invading stone is pretty important. I'm thinking something like:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc Move 21 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . 2 . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . 3 . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . O . , . . . . O , . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Suji · Post by **Suji** » Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:30 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc Move 22 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . W . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . O . . . O . , . . . . O , . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . X . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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