L19 Starcraft II Players

[Solomon]

From this thread it's clear that we have a good handful of L19 members who are also SC2 players, so at the request of Christos I've decided to put up a list of L19 members and their SC2 handles. This can be great for finding practice partners! The list was compiled using a sig generator that also shows the league that everyone is in; this will allow you to find someone of similar level to play. It also contains the character code and the region that everyone is in for your convenience. Anyways, list is below, if I missed you from the previous thread and/or you want to be added in, just post here.

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edit: sc2sigs wasn't working anymore, so feel free to add yourself to the sc2ranks Go league .

[MountainGo]

Bravo to Sha for being the only Random player in the list so far. I always have a certain respect for players who are good at all aspects of the game, including all three races. Too bad he's also the only Australian player in the list, so he can't play with anyone.

[Mike]

Haven't dared to go online yet, just done some challenges and played against the AI + some practice league

[fwiffo]

I've done about a dozen practice league games, but I'm wondering if I should skip the rest and jump right into placement. The practice league games use special maps where you start out walled-in behind destructible debris, so you don't get an opportunity to practice your own wall-ins, early scouting, defending against early pushes or learning the real maps. It's like 9x9 go.

I'm also wondering if it'll make for more interesting matches. Right now, I seem to get paired up with either somebody way, way stronger or somebody much weaker. My games can basically go two ways:

"Let's see, I can get a second stalker out now, and I've almost got warp gates... I guess I'll start robo... Don't forget to chrono boost... Holy crap, where did those 50 marines come from? And a thor? And three battle-cruisers?!"

...or...

"Alright, extended thermal lances are just finishing, time to push out... Haha, I'm in yer base, killin'... where are your dudes? *TotalN00b has left the game* Wait... one barracks, one factory and one stargate, but three ghost academies?"

[Solomon]

I've done about a dozen practice league games, but I'm wondering if I should skip the rest and jump right into placement. The practice league games use special maps where you start out walled-in behind destructible debris, so you don't get an opportunity to practice your own wall-ins, early scouting, defending against early pushes or learning the real maps. It's like 9x9 go.

I'm also wondering if it'll make for more interesting matches. Right now, I seem to get paired up with either somebody way, way stronger or somebody much weaker. My games can basically go two ways:

"Let's see, I can get a second stalker out now, and I've almost got warp gates... I guess I'll start robo... Don't forget to chrono boost... Holy crap, where did those 50 marines come from? And a thor? And three battle-cruisers?!"

...or...

"Alright, extended thermal lances are just finishing, time to push out... Haha, I'm in yer base, killin'... where are your dudes? *TotalN00b has left the game* Wait... one barracks, one factory and one stargate, but three ghost academies?"

Yes, I think it's best to just skip the practice league and go to placement. After you're in your league you'll end up playing far more players near your level and far less sandbaggers. And I definitely agree with you on those wall-in maps, there are so many strategies/tactics that you don't have to be concerned about thanks to those wall-ins.

[fwiffo]

GAH! First placement match, I get 6 pooled. I'm proud of myself for scouting it correctly, and on time, and knowing the correct response, and building my wall-in. I'm not so proud that I only had two zealots out when the zerglings came.

Edit: LOL, not to get overexcited, but placment match #2, 6-pool again. But this time I held off the zergling waves easily, then colossused his broke ass.

[fwiffo]

#3, 6 pool again. Do zerg players do anything else?

[ketchup]

#3, 6 pool again. Do zerg players do anything else?

Although, I'm no expert, I think it's actually strategy for placement matches? They pick aggressive builds because it's the easiest and fastest way to win against most of the people in those match ups. As far as I've heard, the matchmaking isn't so great in these things as I believe you MUST go through this process.

I have to get SC2 soon now, so I can always be like "Fear my bronze skillsss". Mostly though, it seems like a fun idea to get some sc2 games going on in L19 too.

[fwiffo]

That may be the case. The third guy was just a lot stronger than me too. I held off the zergling rush, but he followed up with roaches unbelievably fast and I couldn't keep up at all. Fortunately, after that I got some more interesting matches.

Hidden so you don't have to tolerate n00b gushing.

Two Terrans tried early reaper harass, the first wiped me out, but I beat the second. Then I was completely pantsed by a super-fast MMM drop from a third Terran.

Then I got to play a protoss who went pure stargate tech (and like a bajillion photon cannons for some reason.) He did early phoenix harass, but that just prompted me to build tons of stalkers. When he pushed out with his follow-up (mass carriers and mothership) I had a huge ball of stalkers and colossi already headed for his main. It was a huge economic hit for him, so he couldn't deal with my second push which I was able to build quickly because I am too slow to keep my money low.

Yay, not #100 anymore.

[schilds]

Bravo to Sha for being the only Random player in the list so far. I always have a certain respect for players who are good at all aspects of the game, including all three races.

Haha, I don't feel like I'm any good though :p.

Too bad he's also the only Australian player in the list, so he can't play with anyone.

Yeah .

[fwiffo]

So it seems that, like with go, playing a lot and reviewing your games is important. What's the Starcraft equivalent to tsumego?

[Mike]

So it seems that, like with go, playing a lot and reviewing your games is important. What's the Starcraft equivalent to tsumego?

Just practice BOs and timing, then try it against a human and learn to adapt to their silly actions.

[MountainGo]

I am too slow to keep my money low.

Lies! My APM is like 2 and in the first ten minutes I'm constantly not having ENOUGH minerals to keep everything flowing. You just have to have a plan, and you need to always prioritize macro in your own base before considering the rest of the map with things like scouting and harassing the opponent. (Don't go picking berries while your house is on fire, etc.) If in the early to mid game your minerals start nearing 1000, that is an emergency that should cause you to drop everything else and build two or three more production buildings. If you hotkey all your production buildings, you should have no problem making sure they never stop producing.

Here's a nifty tool to practice your BO repeatedly with no loading time in between: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmes ... _id=126942 The only thing I don't like about it is that the timer displays actual seconds rather than game seconds, so it's practically useless.

p.s. After writing that I checked my actual APM (which I had never bothered to look at before) in my last replay and it was an average of 30, occasionally spiking up to 60. That's an average of one thing every two seconds. Not exactly Mr. McSpeedy.

[Chew Terr]

How exactly does one check APM? I've always heard it bandied about, but never known how you would check it.

[fwiffo]

If you watch a replay it's one of things you can monitor. In the upper left there's a menu that lets you monitor APM, army size, income rate, production and a bunch of other stuff.