14k v's 3 Dan: Return match..and he still wins...

[BobC]

The ongoing saga. The departmental 3 Dan is still roasting me.

However: Bill Spights "pattern" for countering a 3,3 entry was used no less than three times during this game. I am not sure if Dr Yang is actually be inscrutable here and merely "helping me progress". I did get the impression that the game was passive with the exception of a mistake by me, duly punished around 194.

Here it is in its full glory... As before.. If anyone can give me somthing to help actually give this guy a better game...

(;FF[4]GM[1]SZ[19]AP[SGFC:1.16]

GN[yang-BobC-94-20101208]
PB[Bob (BobC)]
BR[14 kyu]
HA[4]
PW[Yang (yang)]
WR[3 dan]
KM[6.5]
DT[2010-12-01,2010-12-08]
PC[Go Server: http://www.xxxxxxx/go/]
OT[Japanese byoyomi: 12 days + 1 day per move and 5 extra periods]

RU[Japanese]
GC[Game ID: 94, rated]

AB[dd][pp][dp][pd]PL[W];W[nc]MN[1];B[qf];W[cn];B[fq];W[cf];B[fc]
;W[dj];B[lc];W[qc];B[pc];W[pb];B[ob];W[qb];B[oc];W[re];B[qe]
;W[rf];B[qg];W[qn];B[nq];W[qj];B[ql];W[oj];B[ol];W[rg];B[ng]
;W[qh];B[nn];W[qq];B[qp];W[rp];B[ro];W[rq];B[qo];W[or];B[oq]
;W[nr];B[mq];W[rn];B[so];W[rl];B[rm];W[rk];B[qm];W[cc];B[cd]
;W[bd];B[be];W[bc];B[ce];W[eb];B[ec];W[fb];B[gc];W[bf];B[df]
;W[dg];B[ef];W[ae];B[fh];W[jc];B[kd];W[jd];B[ke];W[je];B[kg]
;W[jf];B[jg];W[kc];B[md];W[gb];B[hc];W[hb];B[dh];W[eg];B[fg]
;W[cg];B[eh];W[cq];B[cp];W[bp];B[bo];W[bq];B[co];W[er];B[eq]
;W[fr];B[gr];W[dq];B[gp];W[bn];B[ao];W[ch];B[dl];W[eo];B[dn]
;W[em];B[en];W[dm];B[fn];W[fm];B[gm];W[ek];B[fl];W[cl];B[el]
;W[cm];B[fk];W[dk];B[mk];W[mr];B[lq];W[lr];B[kq];W[kr];B[jr]
;W[mj];B[lk];W[fj];B[hk];W[gj];B[hf];W[dc];B[ee];W[lb];B[mc]
;W[mb];B[nd];W[kf];B[lf];W[le];B[me];W[ig];B[lj];W[lg];B[lh]
;W[mf];B[mg];W[kh];B[lf];W[jh];B[lg];W[jk];B[ij];W[mi];B[ih]
;W[ii];B[ji];W[hh];B[ki];W[hj];B[ik];W[oh];B[og];W[nk];B[nl]
;W[he];B[ge];W[hd];B[pi];W[gd];B[fd];W[gf];B[fe];W[gg];B[ff]
;W[ph];B[pj];W[pk];B[ok];W[oi];B[nj];W[ld];B[nb];W[fs];B[hq]
;W[ic];B[ma];W[ka];B[qd];W[rd];B[gs];W[ds];B[gh];W[hg];B[ih]
;W[jh];B[qk];W[qi];B[pq];W[pr];B[di];W[ci];B[an];W[am];B[bl]
;W[gl];B[gk];W[gn];B[hm];W[fo];B[ep];W[do];B[hn];W[bk];B[go]
;W[js];B[is];W[ks];B[iq];W[pg];B[pf];W[ap];B[fp];W[fn];B[ni]
;W[nh];B[nk];W[mh];B[sl];W[rj];B[sk];W[pl];B[pm];W[pj];B[sj]
;W[si];B[sm];W[sp];B[pa];W[qa];B[oa];W[gi];B[ei];W[ej];B[kh]
;W[ih];B[na];W[la])

[Bill Spight]

Here are some new patterns.

(;SZ[19]ST[2]GM[1]FF[4]CA[ISO8859-1]AP[GOWrite:2.2.21]RU[Japanese]PL[W]BR[14 kyu]KM[6.5]OT[Japanese byoyomi: 12 days + 1 day per move and 5 extra periods]HA[4]WR[3 dan]FG[259:]GC[Game ID: 94, rated]AB[dd][dp][pp][pd]GN[yang-BobC-94-20101208]PB[Bob (BobC)]PM[0]DT[2010-12-01,2010-12-08]PC[Go Server: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.xxxxxxx/go/">http://www.xxxxxxx/go/</a><!-- m -->]PW[Yang (yang)]
;W[nc]PM[2]MN[1]
;B[qf]
;W[cn]
;B[fq]
;W[cf]
;B[fc]
;W[dj]
;B[lc]
;W[qc]
;B[pc]
;W[pb]
(
;B[ob]C[*** See variation.]
;W[qb]
;B[oc]
;W[re]
(
;B[qe]C[*** Not so great. See variation.]
;W[rf]C[*** This is too good for White.]
;B[qg]
;W[qn]
;B[nq]
;W[qj]
;B[ql]C[*** Good fighting spirit!]
;W[oj]
;B[ol]
;W[rg]
(
;B[ng]C[*** But this merely tries to make territory. See variations.]
;W[qh]
;B[nn]C[*** Not a bad idea.]
;W[qq]
;B[qp]
;W[rp]
(
;B[ro]C[*** Small. See variation.]
;W[rq]
;B[qo]
;W[or]
(
;B[oq]C[*** Very bad here. See variation.]
;W[nr]
;B[mq]
;W[rn]
;B[so]
;W[rl]
(
;B[rm]C[*** Small. Who cares about two stones? See variation.]
;W[rk]
;B[qm]
;W[cc]
;B[cd]
;W[bd]
;B[be]
;W[bc]
;B[ce]
;W[eb]
(
;B[ec]C[*** Still not good. See variation.]
;W[fb]
(
;B[gc]C[*** See variation.]
;W[bf]
;B[df]C[*** Nice idea!]
;W[dg]
(
;B[ef]C[*** Not so good. You are strong here already. See variation.]
;W[ae]
(
;B[fh]C[*** Nice idea. See variation.]
;W[jc]C[*** Without the threat to connect on the left, it would be hard to make this play. ]
(
;B[kd]C[*** See variation. End of comments.]
;W[jd]
;B[ke]
;W[je]
;B[kg]
;W[jf]
;B[jg]
;W[kc]
;B[md]
;W[gb]
;B[hc]
;W[hb]
;B[dh]
;W[eg]
;B[fg]
;W[cg]
;B[eh]
;W[cq]
;B[cp]
;W[bp]
;B[bo]
;W[bq]
;B[co]
;W[er]
;B[eq]
;W[fr]
;B[gr]
;W[dq]
;B[gp]
;W[bn]
;B[ao]
;W[ch]
;B[dl]
;W[eo]
;B[dn]
;W[em]
;B[en]
;W[dm]
;B[fn]
;W[fm]
;B[gm]
;W[ek]
;B[fl]
;W[cl]
;B[el]
;W[cm]
;B[fk]
;W[dk]
;B[mk]
;W[mr]
;B[lq]
;W[lr]
;B[kq]
;W[kr]
;B[jr]
;W[mj]
;B[lk]
;W[fj]
;B[hk]
;W[gj]
;B[hf]
;W[dc]
;B[ee]
;W[lb]
;B[mc]
;W[mb]
;B[nd]
;W[kf]
;B[lf]
;W[le]
;B[me]
;W[ig]
;B[lj]
;W[lg]
;B[lh]
;W[mf]
;B[mg]
;W[kh]
;B[lf]
;W[jh]
;B[lg]
;W[jk]
;B[ij]
;W[mi]
;B[ih]
;W[ii]
;B[ji]
;W[hh]
;B[ki]
;W[hj]
;B[ik]
;W[oh]
;B[og]
;W[nk]
;B[nl]
;W[he]
;B[ge]
;W[hd]
;B[pi]
;W[gd]
;B[fd]
;W[gf]
;B[fe]
;W[gg]
;B[ff]
;W[ph]
;B[pj]
;W[pk]
;B[ok]
;W[oi]
;B[nj]
;W[ld]
;B[nb]
;W[fs]
;B[hq]
;W[ic]
;B[ma]
;W[ka]
;B[qd]
;W[rd]
;B[gs]
;W[ds]
;B[gh]
;W[hg]
;B[ih]
;W[jh]
;B[qk]
;W[qi]
;B[pq]
;W[pr]
;B[di]
;W[ci]
;B[an]
;W[am]
;B[bl]
;W[gl]
;B[gk]
;W[gn]
;B[hm]
;W[fo]
;B[ep]
;W[do]
;B[hn]
;W[bk]
;B[go]
;W[js]
;B[is]
;W[ks]
;B[iq]
;W[pg]
;B[pf]
;W[ap]
;B[fp]
;W[fn]
;B[ni]
;W[nh]
;B[nk]
;W[mh]
;B[sl]
;W[rj]
;B[sk]
;W[pl]
;B[pm]
;W[pj]
;B[sj]
;W[si]
;B[sm]
;W[sp]
;B[pa]
;W[qa]
;B[oa]
;W[gi]
;B[ei]
;W[ej]
;B[kh]
;W[ih]
;B[na]
;W[la]
)
(
;B[gb]C[*** Prevents the connection and threatens to take the two White stones.]
;W[dc]C[*** Proctects the stones and carries its own threat. See continuation after Black passes.]
;B[tt]
;W[eg]
;B[fg]
;W[ed]
;B[de]
;W[ff]C[*** Oops!]
)

)
(
;B[eg]
;W[dh]
;B[fi]C[*** More solid and bigger.]
)

)
(
;B[eg]
;W[dh]
;B[eh]
;W[ei]
;B[gh]C[*** Think big.]
)

)
(
;B[df]C[*** Keeping this White stone weak is big]
)

)
(
;B[fb]
;W[ec]
;B[ed]
(
;W[dc]C[*** See variation for cut.]
;B[ge]
)
(
;W[fd]
;B[hc]
;W[ef]
;B[df]C[*** Tesuji.]
;W[dg]
;B[ff]C[*** Tesuji.]
;W[gd]
;B[hd]
;W[gf]C[*** If White tries to run. . . .]
;B[eg]
;W[de]
;B[ee]
;W[df]
;B[fe]
;W[ge]
;B[gg]C[*** See continuation after a White pass for how to kill the corner.]
;W[tt]
;B[ea]C[*** There is death in the hane.]
;W[db]
;B[ad]C[*** There is death in the hane. White has too small a space to live.]
(
;W[ba]
;B[ab]
;W[ac]
;B[bb]
(
;W[cb]
;B[da]
)
(
;W[da]
;B[cb]
)

)
(
;W[bb]
;B[ca]
;W[da]
;B[ba]
;W[ac]
;B[aa]C[*** This can become bent four in the cor]
)

)

)

)
(
;B[fn]
)

)
(
;B[nr]
;W[oq]
;B[op]
;W[pq]
;B[fn]C[*** The cut is already protected.]
)

)
(
;B[pq]
;W[rr]
;B[qr]
;W[rq]
;B[fn]C[*** Think big. This not only gives you a deep and wide framework, it threatens to invade the left side. It is consistent with your previous play.]
)

)
(
;B[qo]C[*** Consistent.]
)

(
;B[bd]C[*** Protects the corner and aims to invade.]
)

(
;B[bp]C[*** Ditto.]
)

)
(
;B[rf]C[*** Really contains White to the corner.]
;W[qe]
;B[pe]
;W[qd]C[*** White lives.]
;B[og]C[*** But Black gets huge thickness. See continuation for why White cannot cut.]
;W[pf]
(
;B[of]
;W[pg]
;B[ph]C[*** Ladder A.]
)
(
;B[pg]
;W[of]
;B[nf]C[*** Ladder B.]
)

)

)
(
;B[qd]
;W[rb]
;B[rc]
;W[qb]
;B[nd]C[*** This sequence works with your pincer.]
)

)

Edit: Added variations in the top left corner.

[Andd]

Just a side comment

Bill I always enjoy reading your reviews of games posted to this forum, always very educational. The entire game reviews section is one of the best things about this forum, so thanks for putting so much work into it

[Dusk Eagle]

I agree with Andd. Even though I am obviously much stronger than 14k, I still learn things and have certain concepts emphasized by reading Bill's comments.

[BobC]

Thanks again for these comments... another half hour of pouring over them.......

What amazed me was that the guy must have been adding things up as he went along... and was content not to over punish..

Game three has started.. I now have new patterns...unfortunately he is not playing cricket this time and I've been given no chance to use them

[Joaz Banbeck]

... I now have new patterns...unfortunately he is not playing cricket this time and I've been given no chance to use them

Oh dear. That's terrible. It looks like you may have to give up memorizing patterns and start learning the ideas behind them.

[BobC]

brace yourselves.. I upped the aggression ...the current game is very,very nasty

[Redundant]

brace yourselves.. I upped the aggression ...the current game is very,very nasty

I've always found trying the old ultraviolence out against much stronger players to be a good way to learn ... while losing by hundreds of points.

[Anzu]

Looks like a perfectly good game o.O;;