Hello everyone! This is a game I played in the ASR league, which is why I was playing a stronger player without a handicap. I would hugely appreciate any feedback on what I could have done better.
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7k vs. 1k, even
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Re: 7k vs. 1k, even
A few ideas:
(;CA[utf-8]ST[2]RU[Japanese]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]GM[1]AP[CGoban:3]SZ[19]FF[4]DT[2010-12-20]
PC[KGS]PB[Ashebaret]BR[1k]PW[jtscarry]WR[7k]KM[6.5]TM[1500]RE[B+45.5]MULTIGOGM[0]
;B[pp]BL[1481.85];W[pd]WL[1494.94];B[dp]BL[1478.14];W[cd]WL[1489.63];B[qf]BL[1469.91]
;W[nd]WL[1473.85];B[rd]BL[1463.66];W[qc]WL[1467.05];B[qi]BL[1462.39];W[ec]WL[1463.27]
;B[lc]BL[1459.54];W[ic]WL[1421.96];B[nb]BL[1444.48];W[nc]WL[1382.79];B[ob]BL[1424.75]
;W[me]WL[1350.27];B[rc]BL[1410.34];W[qb]WL[1341.55];B[qd]BL[1404.74];W[pb]WL[1317.05]
;B[oc]BL[1399.12];W[od]WL[1313.64];B[mb]BL[1385.26];W[pc]WL[1309.39];B[kb]BL[1383]
;W[ke]WL[1255.41];B[ci]BL[1368.93]
(;W[cn]WL[1239.38]C[See var.];B[cl]BL[1365.78];W[cq]WL[1233.35];B[cp]BL[1357.95]
;W[dq]WL[1182.06];B[ep]BL[1349.67];W[bp]WL[1161.22];B[bo]BL[1346.49];W[bq]WL[1155.34]
;B[bn]BL[1345.44];W[fq]WL[1146.36];B[fp]BL[1343.01];W[gq]WL[970.011];B[nq]BL[1309.93]
;W[cg]WL[918.612]C[The lower right seems bigger.];B[dg]BL[1277.21];W[dh]WL[909.099]
;B[ch]BL[1274.38]
(;W[eh]WL[898.913]C[See var.];B[cf]BL[1270.92];W[bg]WL[893.32];B[bf]BL[1245.24]
C[Big loss locally for W.];W[eg]WL[871.72];B[df]BL[1231.08];W[ef]WL[867.842]C[This pushes B into your own corner, hurting it.]
;B[de]BL[1216.47]
(;W[dd]WL[859.314]C[Very bad. See var.];B[ee]BL[1206.33]C[Broken shape for W.];W[fe]
WL[855.452];B[fd]BL[1204.14];W[ed]WL[846.579];B[ff]BL[1192.22];W[ge]WL[840.428]
;B[gg]BL[1185.2];W[be]WL[812.286];B[ag]BL[1177.07];W[gh]WL[783.223];B[hg]BL[1168.86]
;W[fh]WL[737.216];B[ie]BL[1166.01];W[hd]WL[730.027];B[he]BL[1134.58];W[gd]WL[702.214]
(;B[ej]BL[1127.93]C[Seems wrong direction. See var.];W[gj]WL[693.793];B[fk]BL[1121.07]
;W[ii]WL[661.482];B[jg]BL[1113.07];W[jd]WL[653.376];B[lf]BL[1104.78];W[le]WL[649.603]
;B[jb]BL[1094.84]
(;W[ng]WL[614.388]LB[od:a][jg:b][ii:c]C[Seems wrong direction. W (a) is strong. This pushes B toward your weaker group (c). See var.]
;B[lh]BL[1087.36];W[ni]WL[559.597];B[lj]BL[1073.46];W[nk]WL[522.26]LB[lj:a][ii:b]
C[With each passing moment you are sending B (a) home to safety while killing your own (b).]
(;B[gk]BL[1070.94]C[See var.];W[hk]WL[513.734];B[hl]BL[1053.49];W[jk]WL[494.037]
;B[ik]BL[1050.73];W[ll]WL[472.685];B[hj]BL[1033.25];W[hi]WL[438.958];B[ij]BL[1017.89]
;W[jj]WL[436.233];B[ji]BL[1016.17];W[il]WL[432.919];B[hk]BL[1014.28];W[ki]WL[401.677]
;B[jh]BL[1002.95];W[li]WL[393.919];B[mh]BL[994.096];W[mi]WL[350.541];B[hh]BL[981.225]
;W[kh]WL[327.285];B[kg]BL[979.296];W[mg]WL[320.174];B[lg]BL[976.982];W[je]WL[279.21]
;B[hf]BL[941.29];W[jf]WL[226.513];B[gi]BL[938.37];W[fi]WL[222.506];B[di]BL[926.633]
;W[ig]WL[201.087];B[if]BL[909.819];W[gf]WL[187.769];B[fg]BL[908.079];W[pk]WL[151.239]
;B[kq]BL[893.746];W[im]WL[141.562];B[hm]BL[888.997];W[qn]WL[121.222];B[qo]BL[886.2]
;W[pn]WL[113.938];B[ro]BL[883.196];W[no]WL[98.771];B[rk]BL[878.931];W[qk]WL[92.07]
;B[rj]BL[861.8];W[ib]WL[56.984];B[la]BL[859.102];W[hn]WL[39.512];B[gn]BL[855.763]
;W[go]WL[35.819];B[ho]BL[825.305];W[gp]WL[29.115];B[fo]BL[822.065];W[in]WL[12.357]
;B[mo]BL[792.42];OW[4]W[mn]WL[30];B[lo]BL[778.151];OW[4]W[ln]WL[30];B[oo]BL[775.1]
;OW[4]W[on]WL[30];B[np]BL[763.519];OW[4]W[ko]WL[30];B[nn]BL[760.664];OW[4]W[nm]
WL[30];B[kp]BL[758.568];OW[4]W[jo]WL[30];B[iq]BL[753.779];OW[4]W[ip]WL[30];B[hr]
BL[751.527];OW[4]W[eq]WL[30];B[gr]BL[748.692];OW[4]W[fr]WL[30];B[rm]BL[743.227]
;OW[4]W[rn]WL[30];B[sn]BL[742.166];OW[4]W[qm]WL[30];B[ql]BL[736.645];OW[4]W[pl]
WL[30];B[rl]BL[735.397];OW[4]W[nh]WL[30];B[hq]BL[732.248];OW[4]W[pg]WL[30];B[qg]
BL[726.615];OW[4]W[ph]WL[30];B[pf]BL[723.997];OW[3]W[mf]WL[30];B[ih]BL[720.479]
;OW[3]W[hp]WL[30];B[of]BL[706.541];OW[3]W[qh]WL[30];B[rh]BL[703.26];OW[3]W[rb]WL[30]
;B[sb]BL[701.242];OW[3]W[oa]WL[30];B[ia]BL[699.181];OW[3]W[ha]WL[30];B[ja]BL[698.043]
;OW[3]W[hb]WL[30];B[na]BL[696.091];OW[3]W[sc]WL[30];B[sd]BL[687.826];OW[3]W[pa]
WL[30];B[pi]BL[679.921];OW[3]W[oi]WL[30];B[og]BL[677.371];OW[3]W[oh]WL[30];B[pj]
BL[675.132];OW[3]W[oj]WL[30];B[jp]BL[672.412];OW[3]W[ao]WL[30];B[bm]BL[650.405]
;OW[3]W[an]WL[30];B[am]BL[648.138];OW[3]W[ap]WL[30];B[no]BL[645.241];OW[3]W[ra]
WL[30];B[pe]BL[638.274];OW[3]W[ae]WL[30];B[qj]BL[632.47];OW[3]W[ce]WL[30];B[bh]
BL[628.885];OW[3]W[id]WL[30];B[gi]BL[620.319];OW[3]W[gs]WL[30];B[hs]BL[617.835]
;OW[3]W[fs]WL[30];B[kc]BL[596.583];OW[3]W[po]WL[30];B[qp]BL[579.817];OW[3]W[sa]
WL[30];B[sc]BL[577.5];OW[3]W[oe]WL[30];B[nf]BL[572.742];OW[3]W[mc]WL[30];B[ld]BL[569.448]
;OW[2]W[]WL[30];B[]BL[569.446]TB[ek][sk][al][bl][dl][el][fl][gl][sl][cm][dm][em]
[fm][gm][sm][cn][dn][bk][en][fn][co][do][eo][so][lp][mp][op][rp][sp][jq][lq][mq]
[oq][pq][qq][rq][sq][ir][jr][lr][mr][nr][or][pr][qr][rr][sr][is][js][ks][ls][ms]
[ns][os][ps][qs][rs][ss][fh][ka][ma][lb][qe][re][se][ef][rf][sf][bg][cg][eg][ig]
[rg][sg][ah][dh][eh][kr][gh][sh][ai][bi][ei][fi][hi][ii][ri][si][aj][bj][cj][dj]
[fj][gj][sj][ak][ck][dk]TW[aa][ba][ca][da][ea][fa][ga][qa][ab][bb][cb][db][eb][fb]
[gb][ac][bc][dc][fc][gc][hc][ad][bd][fd][kj][lj][mj][nj][kk][lk][mk][ok][jl][kl]
[ml][nl][ol][jm][km][lm][mm][om][pm][jn][kn][ho][io][aq][ar][br][cr][dr][er][as]
[bs][cs][ds][cc][es])
(;B[jk]))
(;W[ph]C[Consider leaning first.];B[qh];W[li]C[Then help the weaker side by attacking B.]))
(;B[hh]LB[ep:a][jd:b][od:c]C[This direction seems better for B. Push W toward the (a) thickness. This powerful turn is on the outside for B, and later, if B gets (b), then W (c) is cut off.]))
(;W[fd]))
(;W[cf]))
(;W[jq]))
PC[KGS]PB[Ashebaret]BR[1k]PW[jtscarry]WR[7k]KM[6.5]TM[1500]RE[B+45.5]MULTIGOGM[0]
;B[pp]BL[1481.85];W[pd]WL[1494.94];B[dp]BL[1478.14];W[cd]WL[1489.63];B[qf]BL[1469.91]
;W[nd]WL[1473.85];B[rd]BL[1463.66];W[qc]WL[1467.05];B[qi]BL[1462.39];W[ec]WL[1463.27]
;B[lc]BL[1459.54];W[ic]WL[1421.96];B[nb]BL[1444.48];W[nc]WL[1382.79];B[ob]BL[1424.75]
;W[me]WL[1350.27];B[rc]BL[1410.34];W[qb]WL[1341.55];B[qd]BL[1404.74];W[pb]WL[1317.05]
;B[oc]BL[1399.12];W[od]WL[1313.64];B[mb]BL[1385.26];W[pc]WL[1309.39];B[kb]BL[1383]
;W[ke]WL[1255.41];B[ci]BL[1368.93]
(;W[cn]WL[1239.38]C[See var.];B[cl]BL[1365.78];W[cq]WL[1233.35];B[cp]BL[1357.95]
;W[dq]WL[1182.06];B[ep]BL[1349.67];W[bp]WL[1161.22];B[bo]BL[1346.49];W[bq]WL[1155.34]
;B[bn]BL[1345.44];W[fq]WL[1146.36];B[fp]BL[1343.01];W[gq]WL[970.011];B[nq]BL[1309.93]
;W[cg]WL[918.612]C[The lower right seems bigger.];B[dg]BL[1277.21];W[dh]WL[909.099]
;B[ch]BL[1274.38]
(;W[eh]WL[898.913]C[See var.];B[cf]BL[1270.92];W[bg]WL[893.32];B[bf]BL[1245.24]
C[Big loss locally for W.];W[eg]WL[871.72];B[df]BL[1231.08];W[ef]WL[867.842]C[This pushes B into your own corner, hurting it.]
;B[de]BL[1216.47]
(;W[dd]WL[859.314]C[Very bad. See var.];B[ee]BL[1206.33]C[Broken shape for W.];W[fe]
WL[855.452];B[fd]BL[1204.14];W[ed]WL[846.579];B[ff]BL[1192.22];W[ge]WL[840.428]
;B[gg]BL[1185.2];W[be]WL[812.286];B[ag]BL[1177.07];W[gh]WL[783.223];B[hg]BL[1168.86]
;W[fh]WL[737.216];B[ie]BL[1166.01];W[hd]WL[730.027];B[he]BL[1134.58];W[gd]WL[702.214]
(;B[ej]BL[1127.93]C[Seems wrong direction. See var.];W[gj]WL[693.793];B[fk]BL[1121.07]
;W[ii]WL[661.482];B[jg]BL[1113.07];W[jd]WL[653.376];B[lf]BL[1104.78];W[le]WL[649.603]
;B[jb]BL[1094.84]
(;W[ng]WL[614.388]LB[od:a][jg:b][ii:c]C[Seems wrong direction. W (a) is strong. This pushes B toward your weaker group (c). See var.]
;B[lh]BL[1087.36];W[ni]WL[559.597];B[lj]BL[1073.46];W[nk]WL[522.26]LB[lj:a][ii:b]
C[With each passing moment you are sending B (a) home to safety while killing your own (b).]
(;B[gk]BL[1070.94]C[See var.];W[hk]WL[513.734];B[hl]BL[1053.49];W[jk]WL[494.037]
;B[ik]BL[1050.73];W[ll]WL[472.685];B[hj]BL[1033.25];W[hi]WL[438.958];B[ij]BL[1017.89]
;W[jj]WL[436.233];B[ji]BL[1016.17];W[il]WL[432.919];B[hk]BL[1014.28];W[ki]WL[401.677]
;B[jh]BL[1002.95];W[li]WL[393.919];B[mh]BL[994.096];W[mi]WL[350.541];B[hh]BL[981.225]
;W[kh]WL[327.285];B[kg]BL[979.296];W[mg]WL[320.174];B[lg]BL[976.982];W[je]WL[279.21]
;B[hf]BL[941.29];W[jf]WL[226.513];B[gi]BL[938.37];W[fi]WL[222.506];B[di]BL[926.633]
;W[ig]WL[201.087];B[if]BL[909.819];W[gf]WL[187.769];B[fg]BL[908.079];W[pk]WL[151.239]
;B[kq]BL[893.746];W[im]WL[141.562];B[hm]BL[888.997];W[qn]WL[121.222];B[qo]BL[886.2]
;W[pn]WL[113.938];B[ro]BL[883.196];W[no]WL[98.771];B[rk]BL[878.931];W[qk]WL[92.07]
;B[rj]BL[861.8];W[ib]WL[56.984];B[la]BL[859.102];W[hn]WL[39.512];B[gn]BL[855.763]
;W[go]WL[35.819];B[ho]BL[825.305];W[gp]WL[29.115];B[fo]BL[822.065];W[in]WL[12.357]
;B[mo]BL[792.42];OW[4]W[mn]WL[30];B[lo]BL[778.151];OW[4]W[ln]WL[30];B[oo]BL[775.1]
;OW[4]W[on]WL[30];B[np]BL[763.519];OW[4]W[ko]WL[30];B[nn]BL[760.664];OW[4]W[nm]
WL[30];B[kp]BL[758.568];OW[4]W[jo]WL[30];B[iq]BL[753.779];OW[4]W[ip]WL[30];B[hr]
BL[751.527];OW[4]W[eq]WL[30];B[gr]BL[748.692];OW[4]W[fr]WL[30];B[rm]BL[743.227]
;OW[4]W[rn]WL[30];B[sn]BL[742.166];OW[4]W[qm]WL[30];B[ql]BL[736.645];OW[4]W[pl]
WL[30];B[rl]BL[735.397];OW[4]W[nh]WL[30];B[hq]BL[732.248];OW[4]W[pg]WL[30];B[qg]
BL[726.615];OW[4]W[ph]WL[30];B[pf]BL[723.997];OW[3]W[mf]WL[30];B[ih]BL[720.479]
;OW[3]W[hp]WL[30];B[of]BL[706.541];OW[3]W[qh]WL[30];B[rh]BL[703.26];OW[3]W[rb]WL[30]
;B[sb]BL[701.242];OW[3]W[oa]WL[30];B[ia]BL[699.181];OW[3]W[ha]WL[30];B[ja]BL[698.043]
;OW[3]W[hb]WL[30];B[na]BL[696.091];OW[3]W[sc]WL[30];B[sd]BL[687.826];OW[3]W[pa]
WL[30];B[pi]BL[679.921];OW[3]W[oi]WL[30];B[og]BL[677.371];OW[3]W[oh]WL[30];B[pj]
BL[675.132];OW[3]W[oj]WL[30];B[jp]BL[672.412];OW[3]W[ao]WL[30];B[bm]BL[650.405]
;OW[3]W[an]WL[30];B[am]BL[648.138];OW[3]W[ap]WL[30];B[no]BL[645.241];OW[3]W[ra]
WL[30];B[pe]BL[638.274];OW[3]W[ae]WL[30];B[qj]BL[632.47];OW[3]W[ce]WL[30];B[bh]
BL[628.885];OW[3]W[id]WL[30];B[gi]BL[620.319];OW[3]W[gs]WL[30];B[hs]BL[617.835]
;OW[3]W[fs]WL[30];B[kc]BL[596.583];OW[3]W[po]WL[30];B[qp]BL[579.817];OW[3]W[sa]
WL[30];B[sc]BL[577.5];OW[3]W[oe]WL[30];B[nf]BL[572.742];OW[3]W[mc]WL[30];B[ld]BL[569.448]
;OW[2]W[]WL[30];B[]BL[569.446]TB[ek][sk][al][bl][dl][el][fl][gl][sl][cm][dm][em]
[fm][gm][sm][cn][dn][bk][en][fn][co][do][eo][so][lp][mp][op][rp][sp][jq][lq][mq]
[oq][pq][qq][rq][sq][ir][jr][lr][mr][nr][or][pr][qr][rr][sr][is][js][ks][ls][ms]
[ns][os][ps][qs][rs][ss][fh][ka][ma][lb][qe][re][se][ef][rf][sf][bg][cg][eg][ig]
[rg][sg][ah][dh][eh][kr][gh][sh][ai][bi][ei][fi][hi][ii][ri][si][aj][bj][cj][dj]
[fj][gj][sj][ak][ck][dk]TW[aa][ba][ca][da][ea][fa][ga][qa][ab][bb][cb][db][eb][fb]
[gb][ac][bc][dc][fc][gc][hc][ad][bd][fd][kj][lj][mj][nj][kk][lk][mk][ok][jl][kl]
[ml][nl][ol][jm][km][lm][mm][om][pm][jn][kn][ho][io][aq][ar][br][cr][dr][er][as]
[bs][cs][ds][cc][es])
(;B[jk]))
(;W[ph]C[Consider leaning first.];B[qh];W[li]C[Then help the weaker side by attacking B.]))
(;B[hh]LB[ep:a][jd:b][od:c]C[This direction seems better for B. Push W toward the (a) thickness. This powerful turn is on the outside for B, and later, if B gets (b), then W (c) is cut off.]))
(;W[fd]))
(;W[cf]))
(;W[jq]))
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Re: 7k vs. 1k, even
http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/download/file.php?id=608
Just some ideas, to be taken with a grain of salt
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Re: 7k vs. 1k, even
Some comments:
(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1500]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]PW[jtscarry]PB[Ashebaret]WR[7k]BR[1k]DT[2010-12-20]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[Ashebaret [1k]: good game
jtscarry [7k]: hi, good luck
jtscarry [7k]: ASR League
Ashebaret [1k]: ASR league
]RE[B+45.50];B[pp]BL[1481.846];W[pd]WL[1494.941];B[dp]BL[1478.143];W[cd]WL[1489.626];B[qf]BL[1469.914];W[nd]WL[1473.845];B[rd]BL[1463.661];W[qc]WL[1467.054];B[qi]BL[1462.388];W[ec]WL[1463.27];B[lc]BL[1459.538];W[ic]WL[1421.959]C[This pincer should be tighter- it's a bit slack. K17 is probably better.];B[nb]BL[1444.479]
(;W[nc]WL[1382.792]C[This move is wrong. It lets black into your eyespace. See var.];B[ob]BL[1424.75]
(;W[me]WL[1350.265]C[This is incredibly slow. See var.];B[rc]BL[1410.34];W[qb]WL[1341.551];B[qd]BL[1404.742]
(;W[pb]WL[1317.049]C[See var.];B[oc]BL[1399.116];W[od]WL[1313.64];B[mb]BL[1385.257];W[pc]WL[1309.391];B[kb]BL[1383.002];W[ke]WL[1255.408]C[L16 is better shape. This leaves an elephant's eye weakness at k16];B[ci]BL[1368.927];W[cn]WL[1239.376];B[cl]BL[1365.782]C[This black move is wrong, should be c5];W[cq]WL[1233.352];B[cp]BL[1357.949];W[dq]WL[1182.064]C[jtscarry [7k]: .
];B[ep]BL[1349.67];W[bp]WL[1161.218];B[bo]BL[1346.489];W[bq]WL[1155.341];B[bn]BL[1345.439];W[fq]WL[1146.358];B[fp]BL[1343.005]C[jtscarry [7k]: .
jtscarry [7k]: apologies, i'm lagging badly
Ashebaret [1k]: no problems ask me if you want some time
];W[gq]WL[970.011];B[nq]BL[1309.927];W[cg]WL[918.612]C[Small, r6 is extremely large];B[dg]BL[1277.214]
(;W[dh]WL[909.099]C[Too aggressive. Black is very thick here.];B[ch]BL[1274.375];W[eh]WL[898.913]C[Extended the wrong stone];B[cf]BL[1270.917];W[bg]WL[893.32];B[bf]BL[1245.238];W[eg]WL[871.72];B[df]BL[1231.079];W[ef]WL[867.842]C[e14 stones are floating, they need an extra move to connect.];B[de]BL[1216.475]
(;W[dd]WL[859.314];B[ee]BL[1206.33];W[fe]WL[855.452];B[fd]BL[1204.138];W[ed]WL[846.579];B[ff]BL[1192.216];W[ge]WL[840.428];B[gg]BL[1185.198];W[be]WL[812.286]C[Waste of a move.];B[ag]BL[1177.065];W[gh]WL[783.223];B[hg]BL[1168.864];W[fh]WL[737.216]C[Wasted. Black can't cut even if he wants to.];B[ie]BL[1166.006];W[hd]WL[730.027];B[he]BL[1134.576];W[gd]WL[702.214];B[ej]BL[1127.926];W[gj]WL[693.793];B[fk]BL[1121.068]
(;W[ii]WL[661.482];B[jg]BL[1113.066];W[jd]WL[653.376]C[This is why the elephant's eye shape is bad- you need to spend this extra move.];B[lf]BL[1104.781];W[le]WL[649.603];B[jb]BL[1094.839]
(;W[ng]WL[614.388]C[see var.
Also, what does this move do? it's leaving a giant gap for black to escape through.];B[lh]BL[1087.357];W[ni]WL[559.597];B[lj]BL[1073.461];W[nk]WL[522.26];B[gk]BL[1070.943];W[hk]WL[513.734];B[hl]BL[1053.492];W[jk]WL[494.037];B[ik]BL[1050.733];W[ll]WL[472.685];B[hj]BL[1033.253];W[hi]WL[438.958];B[ij]BL[1017.89];W[jj]WL[436.233];B[ji]BL[1016.167];W[il]WL[432.919];B[hk]BL[1014.279];W[ki]WL[401.677];B[jh]BL[1002.953];W[li]WL[393.919];B[mh]BL[994.096];W[mi]WL[350.541];B[hh]BL[981.225];W[kh]WL[327.285];B[kg]BL[979.296];W[mg]WL[320.174];B[lg]BL[976.982];W[je]WL[279.21];B[hf]BL[941.29];W[jf]WL[226.513];B[gi]BL[938.37];W[fi]WL[222.506];B[di]BL[926.633];W[ig]WL[201.087];B[if]BL[909.819];W[gf]WL[187.769];B[fg]BL[908.079];W[pk]WL[151.239]C[Wasted move- black is thick on both sides. Should be around r6 or s4];B[kq]BL[893.746];W[im]WL[141.562];B[hm]BL[888.997];W[qn]WL[121.222];B[qo]BL[886.2];W[pn]WL[113.938];B[ro]BL[883.196];W[no]WL[98.771];B[rk]BL[878.931];W[qk]WL[92.07]C[Again, this is bad. Should be r8];B[rj]BL[861.8];W[ib]WL[56.984];B[la]BL[859.102];W[hn]WL[39.512];B[gn]BL[855.763];W[go]WL[35.819];B[ho]BL[825.305];W[gp]WL[29.115];B[fo]BL[822.065];W[in]WL[12.357];B[mo]BL[792.42];W[mn]WL[30]OW[4];B[lo]BL[778.151];W[ln]WL[30]OW[4];B[oo]BL[775.1];W[on]WL[30]OW[4];B[np]BL[763.519];W[ko]WL[30]OW[4];B[nn]BL[760.664];W[nm]WL[30]OW[4];B[kp]BL[758.568];W[jo]WL[30]OW[4];B[iq]BL[753.779];W[ip]WL[30]OW[4];B[hr]BL[751.527];W[eq]WL[30]OW[4];B[gr]BL[748.692];W[fr]WL[30]OW[4];B[rm]BL[743.227];W[rn]WL[30]OW[4];B[sn]BL[742.166];W[qm]WL[30]OW[4];B[ql]BL[736.645];W[pl]WL[30]OW[4];B[rl]BL[735.397];W[nh]WL[30]OW[4]C[This is the same as passing];B[hq]BL[732.248];W[pg]WL[30]OW[4];B[qg]BL[726.615];W[ph]WL[30]OW[4];B[pf]BL[723.997];W[mf]WL[30]OW[3]C[again, pass move];B[ih]BL[720.479];W[hp]WL[30]OW[3];B[of]BL[706.541];W[qh]WL[30]OW[3];B[rh]BL[703.26];W[rb]WL[30]OW[3];B[sb]BL[701.242];W[oa]WL[30]OW[3];B[ia]BL[699.181]
(;W[ha]WL[30]OW[3]C[see var. End of comments];B[ja]BL[698.043];W[hb]WL[30]OW[3];B[na]BL[696.091];W[sc]WL[30]OW[3];B[sd]BL[687.826];W[pa]WL[30]OW[3];B[pi]BL[679.921];W[oi]WL[30]OW[3];B[og]BL[677.371];W[oh]WL[30]OW[3];B[pj]BL[675.132];W[oj]WL[30]OW[3];B[jp]BL[672.412];W[ao]WL[30]OW[3];B[bm]BL[650.405];W[an]WL[30]OW[3];B[am]BL[648.138];W[ap]WL[30]OW[3];B[no]BL[645.241];W[ra]WL[30]OW[3];B[pe]BL[638.274];W[ae]WL[30]OW[3];B[qj]BL[632.47];W[ce]WL[30]OW[3];B[bh]BL[628.885];W[id]WL[30]OW[3];B[gi]BL[620.319];W[gs]WL[30]OW[3];B[hs]BL[617.835];W[fs]WL[30]OW[3];B[kc]BL[596.583];W[po]WL[30]OW[3];B[qp]BL[579.817];W[sa]WL[30]OW[3];B[sc]BL[577.5];W[oe]WL[30]OW[3];B[nf]BL[572.742];W[mc]WL[30]OW[3];B[ld]BL[569.448]C[jtscarry [7k]: is this jap or chinese rules?
Ashebaret [1k]: jap
];W[]WL[30]OW[2];B[]BL[569.446]TW[aa][ba][ca][da][ea][fa][ga][qa][ab][bb][cb][db][eb][fb][gb][ac]
[bc][cc][dc][fc][gc][hc][ad][bd][fd][kj][lj][mj][nj][kk][lk][mk]
[ok][jl][kl][ml][nl][ol][jm][km][lm][mm][om][pm][jn][kn][ho][io]
[aq][ar][br][cr][dr][er][as][bs][cs][ds][es]TB[ka][ma][lb][qe][re][se][ef][rf][sf][bg][cg][eg][ig][rg][sg][ah]
[dh][eh][fh][gh][sh][ai][bi][ei][fi][hi][ii][ri][si][aj][bj][cj]
[dj][fj][gj][sj][ak][bk][ck][dk][ek][sk][al][bl][dl][el][fl][gl]
[sl][cm][dm][em][fm][gm][sm][cn][dn][en][fn][co][do][eo][so][lp]
[mp][op][rp][sp][jq][lq][mq][oq][pq][qq][rq][sq][ir][jr][kr][lr]
[mr][nr][or][pr][qr][rr][sr][is][js][ks][ls][ms][ns][os][ps][qs]
[rs][ss]C[Ashebaret [1k]: thx
jtscarry [7k]: thank you
Ashebaret [1k]: sorry i don't have time for the comment
Ashebaret [1k]: next time
jtscarry [7k]: .
jtscarry [7k]: it's okay
jtscarry [7k]: next time
Ashebaret [1k]: bye
jtscarry [7k]: bye
])
(;W[ja]C[black doesn't dare try to go deeper into white's territory, he'll die]
(;B[ha];W[na])
(;B[na];W[ha])))
(;W[lh]C[Something like this might work.]))
(;W[ih]C[This puts more pressure on black. White has enough liberties to try this]))
(;W[fd]C[have to connect..];B[dd];W[dc];B[cc];W[cb];B[bc];W[bb];B[bd]))
(;W[cf];B[dh]))
(;W[pc]C[Black has fewer forcing moves.]))
(;W[rc]C[This way for eyeshape, or...])
(;W[kd]C[try to seal black in?]))
(;W[oc]C[White's shape is better.]))
jtscarry [7k]: hi, good luck
jtscarry [7k]: ASR League
Ashebaret [1k]: ASR league
]RE[B+45.50];B[pp]BL[1481.846];W[pd]WL[1494.941];B[dp]BL[1478.143];W[cd]WL[1489.626];B[qf]BL[1469.914];W[nd]WL[1473.845];B[rd]BL[1463.661];W[qc]WL[1467.054];B[qi]BL[1462.388];W[ec]WL[1463.27];B[lc]BL[1459.538];W[ic]WL[1421.959]C[This pincer should be tighter- it's a bit slack. K17 is probably better.];B[nb]BL[1444.479]
(;W[nc]WL[1382.792]C[This move is wrong. It lets black into your eyespace. See var.];B[ob]BL[1424.75]
(;W[me]WL[1350.265]C[This is incredibly slow. See var.];B[rc]BL[1410.34];W[qb]WL[1341.551];B[qd]BL[1404.742]
(;W[pb]WL[1317.049]C[See var.];B[oc]BL[1399.116];W[od]WL[1313.64];B[mb]BL[1385.257];W[pc]WL[1309.391];B[kb]BL[1383.002];W[ke]WL[1255.408]C[L16 is better shape. This leaves an elephant's eye weakness at k16];B[ci]BL[1368.927];W[cn]WL[1239.376];B[cl]BL[1365.782]C[This black move is wrong, should be c5];W[cq]WL[1233.352];B[cp]BL[1357.949];W[dq]WL[1182.064]C[jtscarry [7k]: .
];B[ep]BL[1349.67];W[bp]WL[1161.218];B[bo]BL[1346.489];W[bq]WL[1155.341];B[bn]BL[1345.439];W[fq]WL[1146.358];B[fp]BL[1343.005]C[jtscarry [7k]: .
jtscarry [7k]: apologies, i'm lagging badly
Ashebaret [1k]: no problems ask me if you want some time
];W[gq]WL[970.011];B[nq]BL[1309.927];W[cg]WL[918.612]C[Small, r6 is extremely large];B[dg]BL[1277.214]
(;W[dh]WL[909.099]C[Too aggressive. Black is very thick here.];B[ch]BL[1274.375];W[eh]WL[898.913]C[Extended the wrong stone];B[cf]BL[1270.917];W[bg]WL[893.32];B[bf]BL[1245.238];W[eg]WL[871.72];B[df]BL[1231.079];W[ef]WL[867.842]C[e14 stones are floating, they need an extra move to connect.];B[de]BL[1216.475]
(;W[dd]WL[859.314];B[ee]BL[1206.33];W[fe]WL[855.452];B[fd]BL[1204.138];W[ed]WL[846.579];B[ff]BL[1192.216];W[ge]WL[840.428];B[gg]BL[1185.198];W[be]WL[812.286]C[Waste of a move.];B[ag]BL[1177.065];W[gh]WL[783.223];B[hg]BL[1168.864];W[fh]WL[737.216]C[Wasted. Black can't cut even if he wants to.];B[ie]BL[1166.006];W[hd]WL[730.027];B[he]BL[1134.576];W[gd]WL[702.214];B[ej]BL[1127.926];W[gj]WL[693.793];B[fk]BL[1121.068]
(;W[ii]WL[661.482];B[jg]BL[1113.066];W[jd]WL[653.376]C[This is why the elephant's eye shape is bad- you need to spend this extra move.];B[lf]BL[1104.781];W[le]WL[649.603];B[jb]BL[1094.839]
(;W[ng]WL[614.388]C[see var.
Also, what does this move do? it's leaving a giant gap for black to escape through.];B[lh]BL[1087.357];W[ni]WL[559.597];B[lj]BL[1073.461];W[nk]WL[522.26];B[gk]BL[1070.943];W[hk]WL[513.734];B[hl]BL[1053.492];W[jk]WL[494.037];B[ik]BL[1050.733];W[ll]WL[472.685];B[hj]BL[1033.253];W[hi]WL[438.958];B[ij]BL[1017.89];W[jj]WL[436.233];B[ji]BL[1016.167];W[il]WL[432.919];B[hk]BL[1014.279];W[ki]WL[401.677];B[jh]BL[1002.953];W[li]WL[393.919];B[mh]BL[994.096];W[mi]WL[350.541];B[hh]BL[981.225];W[kh]WL[327.285];B[kg]BL[979.296];W[mg]WL[320.174];B[lg]BL[976.982];W[je]WL[279.21];B[hf]BL[941.29];W[jf]WL[226.513];B[gi]BL[938.37];W[fi]WL[222.506];B[di]BL[926.633];W[ig]WL[201.087];B[if]BL[909.819];W[gf]WL[187.769];B[fg]BL[908.079];W[pk]WL[151.239]C[Wasted move- black is thick on both sides. Should be around r6 or s4];B[kq]BL[893.746];W[im]WL[141.562];B[hm]BL[888.997];W[qn]WL[121.222];B[qo]BL[886.2];W[pn]WL[113.938];B[ro]BL[883.196];W[no]WL[98.771];B[rk]BL[878.931];W[qk]WL[92.07]C[Again, this is bad. Should be r8];B[rj]BL[861.8];W[ib]WL[56.984];B[la]BL[859.102];W[hn]WL[39.512];B[gn]BL[855.763];W[go]WL[35.819];B[ho]BL[825.305];W[gp]WL[29.115];B[fo]BL[822.065];W[in]WL[12.357];B[mo]BL[792.42];W[mn]WL[30]OW[4];B[lo]BL[778.151];W[ln]WL[30]OW[4];B[oo]BL[775.1];W[on]WL[30]OW[4];B[np]BL[763.519];W[ko]WL[30]OW[4];B[nn]BL[760.664];W[nm]WL[30]OW[4];B[kp]BL[758.568];W[jo]WL[30]OW[4];B[iq]BL[753.779];W[ip]WL[30]OW[4];B[hr]BL[751.527];W[eq]WL[30]OW[4];B[gr]BL[748.692];W[fr]WL[30]OW[4];B[rm]BL[743.227];W[rn]WL[30]OW[4];B[sn]BL[742.166];W[qm]WL[30]OW[4];B[ql]BL[736.645];W[pl]WL[30]OW[4];B[rl]BL[735.397];W[nh]WL[30]OW[4]C[This is the same as passing];B[hq]BL[732.248];W[pg]WL[30]OW[4];B[qg]BL[726.615];W[ph]WL[30]OW[4];B[pf]BL[723.997];W[mf]WL[30]OW[3]C[again, pass move];B[ih]BL[720.479];W[hp]WL[30]OW[3];B[of]BL[706.541];W[qh]WL[30]OW[3];B[rh]BL[703.26];W[rb]WL[30]OW[3];B[sb]BL[701.242];W[oa]WL[30]OW[3];B[ia]BL[699.181]
(;W[ha]WL[30]OW[3]C[see var. End of comments];B[ja]BL[698.043];W[hb]WL[30]OW[3];B[na]BL[696.091];W[sc]WL[30]OW[3];B[sd]BL[687.826];W[pa]WL[30]OW[3];B[pi]BL[679.921];W[oi]WL[30]OW[3];B[og]BL[677.371];W[oh]WL[30]OW[3];B[pj]BL[675.132];W[oj]WL[30]OW[3];B[jp]BL[672.412];W[ao]WL[30]OW[3];B[bm]BL[650.405];W[an]WL[30]OW[3];B[am]BL[648.138];W[ap]WL[30]OW[3];B[no]BL[645.241];W[ra]WL[30]OW[3];B[pe]BL[638.274];W[ae]WL[30]OW[3];B[qj]BL[632.47];W[ce]WL[30]OW[3];B[bh]BL[628.885];W[id]WL[30]OW[3];B[gi]BL[620.319];W[gs]WL[30]OW[3];B[hs]BL[617.835];W[fs]WL[30]OW[3];B[kc]BL[596.583];W[po]WL[30]OW[3];B[qp]BL[579.817];W[sa]WL[30]OW[3];B[sc]BL[577.5];W[oe]WL[30]OW[3];B[nf]BL[572.742];W[mc]WL[30]OW[3];B[ld]BL[569.448]C[jtscarry [7k]: is this jap or chinese rules?
Ashebaret [1k]: jap
];W[]WL[30]OW[2];B[]BL[569.446]TW[aa][ba][ca][da][ea][fa][ga][qa][ab][bb][cb][db][eb][fb][gb][ac]
[bc][cc][dc][fc][gc][hc][ad][bd][fd][kj][lj][mj][nj][kk][lk][mk]
[ok][jl][kl][ml][nl][ol][jm][km][lm][mm][om][pm][jn][kn][ho][io]
[aq][ar][br][cr][dr][er][as][bs][cs][ds][es]TB[ka][ma][lb][qe][re][se][ef][rf][sf][bg][cg][eg][ig][rg][sg][ah]
[dh][eh][fh][gh][sh][ai][bi][ei][fi][hi][ii][ri][si][aj][bj][cj]
[dj][fj][gj][sj][ak][bk][ck][dk][ek][sk][al][bl][dl][el][fl][gl]
[sl][cm][dm][em][fm][gm][sm][cn][dn][en][fn][co][do][eo][so][lp]
[mp][op][rp][sp][jq][lq][mq][oq][pq][qq][rq][sq][ir][jr][kr][lr]
[mr][nr][or][pr][qr][rr][sr][is][js][ks][ls][ms][ns][os][ps][qs]
[rs][ss]C[Ashebaret [1k]: thx
jtscarry [7k]: thank you
Ashebaret [1k]: sorry i don't have time for the comment
Ashebaret [1k]: next time
jtscarry [7k]: .
jtscarry [7k]: it's okay
jtscarry [7k]: next time
Ashebaret [1k]: bye
jtscarry [7k]: bye
])
(;W[ja]C[black doesn't dare try to go deeper into white's territory, he'll die]
(;B[ha];W[na])
(;B[na];W[ha])))
(;W[lh]C[Something like this might work.]))
(;W[ih]C[This puts more pressure on black. White has enough liberties to try this]))
(;W[fd]C[have to connect..];B[dd];W[dc];B[cc];W[cb];B[bc];W[bb];B[bd]))
(;W[cf];B[dh]))
(;W[pc]C[Black has fewer forcing moves.]))
(;W[rc]C[This way for eyeshape, or...])
(;W[kd]C[try to seal black in?]))
(;W[oc]C[White's shape is better.]))
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Re: 7k vs. 1k, even
Post by Bill Spight »
Me, too. 
(;CA[UTF-8]ST[2]AP[GOWrite:2.2.21]SZ[19]FF[4]GM[1]RE[B+45.50]PB[Ashebaret]TM[1500.0]C[Ashebaret [1k]: good game
jtscarry [7k]: hi, good luck
jtscarry [7k]: ASR League
Ashebaret [1k]: ASR league
*** You did well to lose by only 45.5!]BR[1k]GN[ ]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]WR[7k]PW[jtscarry]FG[259:]PM[0]RU[Japanese]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]KM[6.5]DT[2010-12-20]
;B[pp]BL[1481.846]
;W[pd]WL[1494.941]
;B[dp]BL[1478.143]
;W[cd]WL[1489.626]
;B[qf]BL[1469.914]
;W[nd]WL[1473.845]
;B[rd]BL[1463.661]
;W[qc]WL[1467.054]
;B[qi]BL[1462.388]
(
;C[*** See variation.]W[ec]WL[1463.27]
;B[lc]BL[1459.538]
;W[ic]WL[1421.959]
;B[nb]BL[1444.479]
(
;C[*** Doesn't do much. In a way, you have already replied to this play by your move on the 3-3. See variation.]W[nc]WL[1382.792]
;B[ob]BL[1424.75]
(
;C[*** Again, does not do much. See variation.]W[me]WL[1350.265]
;B[rc]BL[1410.34]
(
;C[*** See variation.]W[qb]WL[1341.551]
;B[qd]BL[1404.742]
(
;C[Bad shape, and small. See variation.]W[pb]WL[1317.049]
;B[oc]BL[1399.116]
;W[od]WL[1313.64]
;B[mb]BL[1385.257]
;C[*** White has a horrible dumpling. Most unappetizing.]W[pc]WL[1309.391]
;B[kb]BL[1383.002]
;W[ke]WL[1255.408]
;B[ci]BL[1368.927]
(
;C[*** See variation.]W[cn]WL[1239.376]
;B[cl]BL[1365.782]
;W[cq]WL[1233.352]
;B[cp]BL[1357.949]
;C[jtscarry [7k]: .
]W[dq]WL[1182.064]
;B[ep]BL[1349.67]
;W[bp]WL[1161.218]
;B[bo]BL[1346.489]
;W[bq]WL[1155.341]
;B[bn]BL[1345.439]
;C[Black is a bit overconcentrated on the left side.]W[fq]WL[1146.358]
;B[fp]BL[1343.005]C[jtscarry [7k]: .
jtscarry [7k]: apologies, i'm lagging badly
Ashebaret [1k]: no problems ask me if you want some time
]
;W[gq]WL[970.011]
;B[nq]BL[1309.927]
(
;C[*** See variation]W[cg]WL[918.612]
;B[dg]BL[1277.214]
;C[*** Overplay.]W[dh]WL[909.099]
;B[ch]BL[1274.375]
;W[eh]WL[898.913]
;B[cf]BL[1270.917]
;W[bg]WL[893.32]
;B[bf]BL[1245.238]
;W[eg]WL[871.72]
;B[df]BL[1231.079]
;W[ef]WL[867.842]
;B[de]BL[1216.475]C[*** Bad shape.]
(
;C[*** Not good. Inducing the opponent to do what he wants to do. See variation.]W[dd]WL[859.314]
;B[ee]BL[1206.33]
;W[fe]WL[855.452]
;B[fd]BL[1204.138]
(
;C[*** Bad shape. Besides, the corner is strong. See variation.]W[ed]WL[846.579]
;B[ff]BL[1192.216]
;W[ge]WL[840.428]
;B[gg]BL[1185.198]
;C[*** If you play this now, you strengthen the two Black stones at C-11 and C-12. Better wait.]W[be]WL[812.286]
;B[ag]BL[1177.065]
(
;C[*** Pu/hes Black from behind. See variation.]W[gh]WL[783.223]
;B[hg]BL[1168.864]
;C[*** Bad shape.]W[fh]WL[737.216]
;B[ie]BL[1166.006]C[*** Very good.]
;W[hd]WL[730.027]
;B[he]BL[1134.576]
;W[gd]WL[702.214]
;B[ej]BL[1127.926]
;W[gj]WL[693.793]
;B[fk]BL[1121.068]
(
;C[*** See variation.]W[ii]WL[661.482]
;B[jg]BL[1113.066]
;W[jd]WL[653.376]
;B[lf]BL[1104.781]
;W[le]WL[649.603]
;B[jb]BL[1094.839]
(
;C[*** See variation.]W[ng]WL[614.388]
;B[lh]BL[1087.357]
;W[ni]WL[559.597]
;B[lj]BL[1073.461]
(
;C[*** You have to go back and strengthen your group on the left. See variation. End of comments.]W[nk]WL[522.26]
;B[gk]BL[1070.943]
;W[hk]WL[513.734]
;B[hl]BL[1053.492]
;W[jk]WL[494.037]
;B[ik]BL[1050.733]
;W[ll]WL[472.685]
;B[hj]BL[1033.253]
;W[hi]WL[438.958]
;B[ij]BL[1017.89]
;W[jj]WL[436.233]
;B[ji]BL[1016.167]
;W[il]WL[432.919]
;B[hk]BL[1014.279]
;W[ki]WL[401.677]
;B[jh]BL[1002.953]
;W[li]WL[393.919]
;B[mh]BL[994.096]
;W[mi]WL[350.541]
;B[hh]BL[981.225]
;W[kh]WL[327.285]
;B[kg]BL[979.296]
;W[mg]WL[320.174]
;B[lg]BL[976.982]
;W[je]WL[279.21]
;B[hf]BL[941.29]
;W[jf]WL[226.513]
;B[gi]BL[938.37]
;W[fi]WL[222.506]
;B[di]BL[926.633]
;W[ig]WL[201.087]
;B[if]BL[909.819]
;W[gf]WL[187.769]
;B[fg]BL[908.079]
;W[pk]WL[151.239]
;B[kq]BL[893.746]
;W[im]WL[141.562]
;B[hm]BL[888.997]
;W[qn]WL[121.222]
;B[qo]BL[886.2]
;W[pn]WL[113.938]
;B[ro]BL[883.196]
;W[no]WL[98.771]
;B[rk]BL[878.931]
;W[qk]WL[92.07]
;B[rj]BL[861.8]
;W[ib]WL[56.984]
;B[la]BL[859.102]
;W[hn]WL[39.512]
;B[gn]BL[855.763]
;W[go]WL[35.819]
;B[ho]BL[825.305]
;W[gp]WL[29.115]
;B[fo]BL[822.065]
;W[in]WL[12.357]
;B[mo]BL[792.42]
;OW[4]W[mn]WL[30.0]
;B[lo]BL[778.151]
;OW[4]W[ln]WL[30.0]
;B[oo]BL[775.1]
;OW[4]W[on]WL[30.0]
;B[np]BL[763.519]
;OW[4]W[ko]WL[30.0]
;B[nn]BL[760.664]
;OW[4]W[nm]WL[30.0]
;B[kp]BL[758.568]
;OW[4]W[jo]WL[30.0]
;B[iq]BL[753.779]
;OW[4]W[ip]WL[30.0]
;B[hr]BL[751.527]
;OW[4]W[eq]WL[30.0]
;B[gr]BL[748.692]
;OW[4]W[fr]WL[30.0]
;B[rm]BL[743.227]
;OW[4]W[rn]WL[30.0]
;B[sn]BL[742.166]
;OW[4]W[qm]WL[30.0]
;B[ql]BL[736.645]
;OW[4]W[pl]WL[30.0]
;B[rl]BL[735.397]
;OW[4]W[nh]WL[30.0]
;B[hq]BL[732.248]
;OW[4]W[pg]WL[30.0]
;B[qg]BL[726.615]
;OW[4]W[ph]WL[30.0]
;B[pf]BL[723.997]
;OW[3]W[mf]WL[30.0]
;B[ih]BL[720.479]
;OW[3]W[hp]WL[30.0]
;B[of]BL[706.541]
;OW[3]W[qh]WL[30.0]
;B[rh]BL[703.26]
;OW[3]W[rb]WL[30.0]
;B[sb]BL[701.242]
;OW[3]W[oa]WL[30.0]
;B[ia]BL[699.181]
;OW[3]W[ha]WL[30.0]
;B[ja]BL[698.043]
;OW[3]W[hb]WL[30.0]
;B[na]BL[696.091]
;OW[3]W[sc]WL[30.0]
;B[sd]BL[687.826]
;OW[3]W[pa]WL[30.0]
;B[pi]BL[679.921]
;OW[3]W[oi]WL[30.0]
;B[og]BL[677.371]
;OW[3]W[oh]WL[30.0]
;B[pj]BL[675.132]
;OW[3]W[oj]WL[30.0]
;B[jp]BL[672.412]
;OW[3]W[ao]WL[30.0]
;B[bm]BL[650.405]
;OW[3]W[an]WL[30.0]
;B[am]BL[648.138]
;OW[3]W[ap]WL[30.0]
;B[no]BL[645.241]
;OW[3]W[ra]WL[30.0]
;B[pe]BL[638.274]
;OW[3]W[ae]WL[30.0]
;B[qj]BL[632.47]
;OW[3]W[ce]WL[30.0]
;B[bh]BL[628.885]
;OW[3]W[id]WL[30.0]
;B[gi]BL[620.319]
;OW[3]W[gs]WL[30.0]
;B[hs]BL[617.835]
;OW[3]W[fs]WL[30.0]
;B[kc]BL[596.583]
;OW[3]W[po]WL[30.0]
;B[qp]BL[579.817]
;OW[3]W[sa]WL[30.0]
;B[sc]BL[577.5]
;OW[3]W[oe]WL[30.0]
;B[nf]BL[572.742]
;OW[3]W[mc]WL[30.0]
;B[ld]BL[569.448]C[jtscarry [7k]: is this jap or chinese rules?
Ashebaret [1k]: jap
]
;OW[2]W[tt]WL[30.0]
;B[tt]BL[569.446]C[Ashebaret [1k]: thx
jtscarry [7k]: thank you
Ashebaret [1k]: sorry i don't have time for the comment
Ashebaret [1k]: next time
jtscarry [7k]: .
jtscarry [7k]: it's okay
jtscarry [7k]: next time
Ashebaret [1k]: bye
jtscarry [7k]: bye
]TB[ah][ai:bi][aj:dj][ak:ek][al:bl][bg:cg][cm:gm][cn:fn][co:eo][dh:gh][dl:gl][ef:eg][ei:fi][fj:gj][hi:ii][ig][ir:ss][jq][ka][lb][lp:mq][ma][op][oq:sq][qe:se][rf:sg][ri:si][rp:sp][sh][sj:sm][so]TW[aa:gb][ac:dc][ad:bd][aq][ar:es][fc:hc][fd][ho:io][jl:kl][jm:mm][jn:kn][kj:nj][kk:mk][ml:ol][ok][om:pm][qa]
)
(
;W[gk]
)
)
(
;W[lg]
)
)
(
;W[gk]
;B[gl]
;W[hl]
;B[hm]
;C[*** Cut Black off.]W[jd]
)
)
(
;C[*** It is hard to give up the four stones. This way avoids strengthening Black's weak stones, and reduces the Black framework.]W[fj]
;B[fi]C[*** If Black plays here, ]
;C[*** White can play here.]W[dj]
)
)
(
;C[*** You need to strengthen these stones. Besides, you make a framework in the center.]W[ge]
)
)
(
;W[fd]
)
)
(
;C[*** A good time to invade. This looks to the corner or the side.]W[ro]
)
)
(
;C[*** The wedge is normal. ]W[jq]
)
)
(
;W[kd]
;B[kc]
;C[*** White is thick. Best of a bad bargain. If Black captures the corner, tenuki. Who cares about two stones?]W[jd]
)
)
(
;W[rb]
;B[pc]
;W[pb]
;B[oc]
;W[qd]
;B[od]
;W[oe]
;B[mc]
;C[*** Fear not.]W[re]
)
)
(
;W[mb]
;B[mc]
;W[lb]
;B[kb]
;W[kc]
;B[la]
;W[ld]
;B[ma]
;C[*** Black has small life. White is thick.]W[md]
)
)
(
;C[*** Vulgar play, but. . . .]W[mc]
;B[mb]
;W[ld]
;B[kc]
;W[kd]
;B[jc]
;W[jd]
;B[ib]
;W[hb]
;B[ia]
;C[*** Black has small life and White is thick.]W[hc]
)
)
(
;C[*** A good place for a Chinese style setup.]W[ic]
)
)
jtscarry [7k]: hi, good luck
jtscarry [7k]: ASR League
Ashebaret [1k]: ASR league
*** You did well to lose by only 45.5!]BR[1k]GN[ ]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]WR[7k]PW[jtscarry]FG[259:]PM[0]RU[Japanese]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]KM[6.5]DT[2010-12-20]
;B[pp]BL[1481.846]
;W[pd]WL[1494.941]
;B[dp]BL[1478.143]
;W[cd]WL[1489.626]
;B[qf]BL[1469.914]
;W[nd]WL[1473.845]
;B[rd]BL[1463.661]
;W[qc]WL[1467.054]
;B[qi]BL[1462.388]
(
;C[*** See variation.]W[ec]WL[1463.27]
;B[lc]BL[1459.538]
;W[ic]WL[1421.959]
;B[nb]BL[1444.479]
(
;C[*** Doesn't do much. In a way, you have already replied to this play by your move on the 3-3. See variation.]W[nc]WL[1382.792]
;B[ob]BL[1424.75]
(
;C[*** Again, does not do much. See variation.]W[me]WL[1350.265]
;B[rc]BL[1410.34]
(
;C[*** See variation.]W[qb]WL[1341.551]
;B[qd]BL[1404.742]
(
;C[Bad shape, and small. See variation.]W[pb]WL[1317.049]
;B[oc]BL[1399.116]
;W[od]WL[1313.64]
;B[mb]BL[1385.257]
;C[*** White has a horrible dumpling. Most unappetizing.]W[pc]WL[1309.391]
;B[kb]BL[1383.002]
;W[ke]WL[1255.408]
;B[ci]BL[1368.927]
(
;C[*** See variation.]W[cn]WL[1239.376]
;B[cl]BL[1365.782]
;W[cq]WL[1233.352]
;B[cp]BL[1357.949]
;C[jtscarry [7k]: .
]W[dq]WL[1182.064]
;B[ep]BL[1349.67]
;W[bp]WL[1161.218]
;B[bo]BL[1346.489]
;W[bq]WL[1155.341]
;B[bn]BL[1345.439]
;C[Black is a bit overconcentrated on the left side.]W[fq]WL[1146.358]
;B[fp]BL[1343.005]C[jtscarry [7k]: .
jtscarry [7k]: apologies, i'm lagging badly
Ashebaret [1k]: no problems ask me if you want some time
]
;W[gq]WL[970.011]
;B[nq]BL[1309.927]
(
;C[*** See variation]W[cg]WL[918.612]
;B[dg]BL[1277.214]
;C[*** Overplay.]W[dh]WL[909.099]
;B[ch]BL[1274.375]
;W[eh]WL[898.913]
;B[cf]BL[1270.917]
;W[bg]WL[893.32]
;B[bf]BL[1245.238]
;W[eg]WL[871.72]
;B[df]BL[1231.079]
;W[ef]WL[867.842]
;B[de]BL[1216.475]C[*** Bad shape.]
(
;C[*** Not good. Inducing the opponent to do what he wants to do. See variation.]W[dd]WL[859.314]
;B[ee]BL[1206.33]
;W[fe]WL[855.452]
;B[fd]BL[1204.138]
(
;C[*** Bad shape. Besides, the corner is strong. See variation.]W[ed]WL[846.579]
;B[ff]BL[1192.216]
;W[ge]WL[840.428]
;B[gg]BL[1185.198]
;C[*** If you play this now, you strengthen the two Black stones at C-11 and C-12. Better wait.]W[be]WL[812.286]
;B[ag]BL[1177.065]
(
;C[*** Pu/hes Black from behind. See variation.]W[gh]WL[783.223]
;B[hg]BL[1168.864]
;C[*** Bad shape.]W[fh]WL[737.216]
;B[ie]BL[1166.006]C[*** Very good.]
;W[hd]WL[730.027]
;B[he]BL[1134.576]
;W[gd]WL[702.214]
;B[ej]BL[1127.926]
;W[gj]WL[693.793]
;B[fk]BL[1121.068]
(
;C[*** See variation.]W[ii]WL[661.482]
;B[jg]BL[1113.066]
;W[jd]WL[653.376]
;B[lf]BL[1104.781]
;W[le]WL[649.603]
;B[jb]BL[1094.839]
(
;C[*** See variation.]W[ng]WL[614.388]
;B[lh]BL[1087.357]
;W[ni]WL[559.597]
;B[lj]BL[1073.461]
(
;C[*** You have to go back and strengthen your group on the left. See variation. End of comments.]W[nk]WL[522.26]
;B[gk]BL[1070.943]
;W[hk]WL[513.734]
;B[hl]BL[1053.492]
;W[jk]WL[494.037]
;B[ik]BL[1050.733]
;W[ll]WL[472.685]
;B[hj]BL[1033.253]
;W[hi]WL[438.958]
;B[ij]BL[1017.89]
;W[jj]WL[436.233]
;B[ji]BL[1016.167]
;W[il]WL[432.919]
;B[hk]BL[1014.279]
;W[ki]WL[401.677]
;B[jh]BL[1002.953]
;W[li]WL[393.919]
;B[mh]BL[994.096]
;W[mi]WL[350.541]
;B[hh]BL[981.225]
;W[kh]WL[327.285]
;B[kg]BL[979.296]
;W[mg]WL[320.174]
;B[lg]BL[976.982]
;W[je]WL[279.21]
;B[hf]BL[941.29]
;W[jf]WL[226.513]
;B[gi]BL[938.37]
;W[fi]WL[222.506]
;B[di]BL[926.633]
;W[ig]WL[201.087]
;B[if]BL[909.819]
;W[gf]WL[187.769]
;B[fg]BL[908.079]
;W[pk]WL[151.239]
;B[kq]BL[893.746]
;W[im]WL[141.562]
;B[hm]BL[888.997]
;W[qn]WL[121.222]
;B[qo]BL[886.2]
;W[pn]WL[113.938]
;B[ro]BL[883.196]
;W[no]WL[98.771]
;B[rk]BL[878.931]
;W[qk]WL[92.07]
;B[rj]BL[861.8]
;W[ib]WL[56.984]
;B[la]BL[859.102]
;W[hn]WL[39.512]
;B[gn]BL[855.763]
;W[go]WL[35.819]
;B[ho]BL[825.305]
;W[gp]WL[29.115]
;B[fo]BL[822.065]
;W[in]WL[12.357]
;B[mo]BL[792.42]
;OW[4]W[mn]WL[30.0]
;B[lo]BL[778.151]
;OW[4]W[ln]WL[30.0]
;B[oo]BL[775.1]
;OW[4]W[on]WL[30.0]
;B[np]BL[763.519]
;OW[4]W[ko]WL[30.0]
;B[nn]BL[760.664]
;OW[4]W[nm]WL[30.0]
;B[kp]BL[758.568]
;OW[4]W[jo]WL[30.0]
;B[iq]BL[753.779]
;OW[4]W[ip]WL[30.0]
;B[hr]BL[751.527]
;OW[4]W[eq]WL[30.0]
;B[gr]BL[748.692]
;OW[4]W[fr]WL[30.0]
;B[rm]BL[743.227]
;OW[4]W[rn]WL[30.0]
;B[sn]BL[742.166]
;OW[4]W[qm]WL[30.0]
;B[ql]BL[736.645]
;OW[4]W[pl]WL[30.0]
;B[rl]BL[735.397]
;OW[4]W[nh]WL[30.0]
;B[hq]BL[732.248]
;OW[4]W[pg]WL[30.0]
;B[qg]BL[726.615]
;OW[4]W[ph]WL[30.0]
;B[pf]BL[723.997]
;OW[3]W[mf]WL[30.0]
;B[ih]BL[720.479]
;OW[3]W[hp]WL[30.0]
;B[of]BL[706.541]
;OW[3]W[qh]WL[30.0]
;B[rh]BL[703.26]
;OW[3]W[rb]WL[30.0]
;B[sb]BL[701.242]
;OW[3]W[oa]WL[30.0]
;B[ia]BL[699.181]
;OW[3]W[ha]WL[30.0]
;B[ja]BL[698.043]
;OW[3]W[hb]WL[30.0]
;B[na]BL[696.091]
;OW[3]W[sc]WL[30.0]
;B[sd]BL[687.826]
;OW[3]W[pa]WL[30.0]
;B[pi]BL[679.921]
;OW[3]W[oi]WL[30.0]
;B[og]BL[677.371]
;OW[3]W[oh]WL[30.0]
;B[pj]BL[675.132]
;OW[3]W[oj]WL[30.0]
;B[jp]BL[672.412]
;OW[3]W[ao]WL[30.0]
;B[bm]BL[650.405]
;OW[3]W[an]WL[30.0]
;B[am]BL[648.138]
;OW[3]W[ap]WL[30.0]
;B[no]BL[645.241]
;OW[3]W[ra]WL[30.0]
;B[pe]BL[638.274]
;OW[3]W[ae]WL[30.0]
;B[qj]BL[632.47]
;OW[3]W[ce]WL[30.0]
;B[bh]BL[628.885]
;OW[3]W[id]WL[30.0]
;B[gi]BL[620.319]
;OW[3]W[gs]WL[30.0]
;B[hs]BL[617.835]
;OW[3]W[fs]WL[30.0]
;B[kc]BL[596.583]
;OW[3]W[po]WL[30.0]
;B[qp]BL[579.817]
;OW[3]W[sa]WL[30.0]
;B[sc]BL[577.5]
;OW[3]W[oe]WL[30.0]
;B[nf]BL[572.742]
;OW[3]W[mc]WL[30.0]
;B[ld]BL[569.448]C[jtscarry [7k]: is this jap or chinese rules?
Ashebaret [1k]: jap
]
;OW[2]W[tt]WL[30.0]
;B[tt]BL[569.446]C[Ashebaret [1k]: thx
jtscarry [7k]: thank you
Ashebaret [1k]: sorry i don't have time for the comment
Ashebaret [1k]: next time
jtscarry [7k]: .
jtscarry [7k]: it's okay
jtscarry [7k]: next time
Ashebaret [1k]: bye
jtscarry [7k]: bye
]TB[ah][ai:bi][aj:dj][ak:ek][al:bl][bg:cg][cm:gm][cn:fn][co:eo][dh:gh][dl:gl][ef:eg][ei:fi][fj:gj][hi:ii][ig][ir:ss][jq][ka][lb][lp:mq][ma][op][oq:sq][qe:se][rf:sg][ri:si][rp:sp][sh][sj:sm][so]TW[aa:gb][ac:dc][ad:bd][aq][ar:es][fc:hc][fd][ho:io][jl:kl][jm:mm][jn:kn][kj:nj][kk:mk][ml:ol][ok][om:pm][qa]
)
(
;W[gk]
)
)
(
;W[lg]
)
)
(
;W[gk]
;B[gl]
;W[hl]
;B[hm]
;C[*** Cut Black off.]W[jd]
)
)
(
;C[*** It is hard to give up the four stones. This way avoids strengthening Black's weak stones, and reduces the Black framework.]W[fj]
;B[fi]C[*** If Black plays here, ]
;C[*** White can play here.]W[dj]
)
)
(
;C[*** You need to strengthen these stones. Besides, you make a framework in the center.]W[ge]
)
)
(
;W[fd]
)
)
(
;C[*** A good time to invade. This looks to the corner or the side.]W[ro]
)
)
(
;C[*** The wedge is normal. ]W[jq]
)
)
(
;W[kd]
;B[kc]
;C[*** White is thick. Best of a bad bargain. If Black captures the corner, tenuki. Who cares about two stones?]W[jd]
)
)
(
;W[rb]
;B[pc]
;W[pb]
;B[oc]
;W[qd]
;B[od]
;W[oe]
;B[mc]
;C[*** Fear not.]W[re]
)
)
(
;W[mb]
;B[mc]
;W[lb]
;B[kb]
;W[kc]
;B[la]
;W[ld]
;B[ma]
;C[*** Black has small life. White is thick.]W[md]
)
)
(
;C[*** Vulgar play, but. . . .]W[mc]
;B[mb]
;W[ld]
;B[kc]
;W[kd]
;B[jc]
;W[jd]
;B[ib]
;W[hb]
;B[ia]
;C[*** Black has small life and White is thick.]W[hc]
)
)
(
;C[*** A good place for a Chinese style setup.]W[ic]
)
)
The Adkins Principle:
At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins
Visualize whirled peas.
Everything with love. Stay safe.
At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins
Visualize whirled peas.
Everything with love. Stay safe.
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Re: 7k vs. 1k, even
Thank you, all. Your suggestions and continuations have given me a lot to think over.
The internet ate a lengthier reply in which I mused about what your comments reveal my biggest weaknesses to be, but I'll spare you.
The internet ate a lengthier reply in which I mused about what your comments reveal my biggest weaknesses to be, but I'll spare you.
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