(10k) the chase

thequietcenter · Post by **thequietcenter** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:38 am

An interesting chase developed in this match. I would love to see some feedback on it. I've joined the Malkovich ladder by the way

judicata · Post by **judicata** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:08 pm

If I have time to go into more depth later, I will. But just a few things from a quick review:

Black's first several moves were good, I thought.

White gained a lot with the sequence 25-36. Maybe 27 should be at R13 or something to strengthen the right side group, which you could use to cut white apart. In the game, black is left with a weak group in the center.

Finally B81 at D9 connects black's group (white would have to respond at b10).

aurik · Post by **aurik** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:37 pm

B19 was very odd. You have 3 white groups that you can target and 1 black group that could use another move to prevent it from becoming a target itself, but you tenuki, and then let W connect 2 of his attackable groups.

W then allows you to cut him in 2 because he thinks Q14 is very important, but then you allow your cutting group to be completely sealed in.

What happens if W plays S17 at 60? Given that, is B @ S17 necessary? Immediately after this, you finally have to pay the price for not making a base for your group along the top (and the price you end up paying is a gigantic white corner)

What's the purpose of B73 @ D12? Can W connect here if you do not play D12?

B107: I don't think H7 is very important. More important at this point is contesting the last open corner. Killing W was merely fortuitous, as W played with reckless disregard for the life of the bottom group.

B199: How does W refute N18?

In summary, W gave you huge opportunities to win this game decisively early, but the winning margin ended up to less than a kill that was the result of a W misread.

thequietcenter · Post by **thequietcenter** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:59 pm

aurik wrote:B19 was very odd. You have 3 white groups that you can target and 1 black group that could use another move to prevent it from becoming a target itself, but you tenuki, and then let W connect 2 of his attackable groups.

Ok, good point. In light of this, I'm thinking L13 is a good move...

gaius · Post by **gaius** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:31 am

Not to discourage you from uploading your games for review, but I noticed that you only seem to upload games you won (quite convincingly). I always have the idea that there's more to be learned from games you lost... Even if you think a loss is just because of one silly move, in actuality there's usually a lot to learn.

Apologies, by the way, that I don't have time for a proper review of this one

Post by **Joaz Banbeck** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:19 am

gaius wrote:... I always have the idea that there's more to be learned from games you lost...

At first thought this seems true, for we might well assume that more mistakes are made in a game that we lost than in a game that we won. But the really persistent mistakes are those that work against our peers, so we tend to repeat them and let them get reinforced. As Mark Twain said, “It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so."

To the OP: You played a Chinese, which requires that you be prepared to attack swiftly if white invades your formation. White did invade, and you made several slightly weak and passive moves - and one huge tenuki - when decisive attacking moves were required. Nonetheless you recovered your sense of direction and fought rather well. By the time you began running with your center group it was a really desperate operation and you probably should have died. But you outfought your opponent and eventually killed something. :clap:

Your attacking skills are very good for your rank, and in hand-to-hand infighting you do well. But those skills are being undermined by a rather casual fuseki. Try to watch things like who has eyeshape, and aji, and connectons. Then you will go into the fights with an even chance and kill a lot of groups.

thequietcenter · Post by **thequietcenter** » Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:20 pm

gaius wrote:I noticed that you only seem to upload games you won (quite convincingly).

I do upload games that I have lost, for example:
http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/viewto ... f=4&t=3972

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