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daal · Post by **daal** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:24 am

Here is a minor milestone in my go career. I was playing a game this morning, and felt comfortably ahead, when my opponent tossed in one of those desperate placements - the marked stone at move 151.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . O . . X O O . O O O O O . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X X X . X O X X O O | $$ | . . O . O O O . . . . . . X X . X X O | $$ | . . O X O X X . X . . . . . . . X . X | $$ | . O O O X X . X . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O X O . X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X . O . X X X X . . . . . | $$ | . . X X O O X . . , X O O O X , . . . | $$ | . X . . . . X O O O . O . X X . X X . | $$ | . X O . O O X . X O . O X . O O O . . | $$ | 4 O . . . . X . X O . . X . . X . . . | $$ | . 3 . O . . . . X . O . . O . X O O . | $$ | . . . O X . X . X O . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . Y 2 . X O . O , . . O O X X O O . | $$ | . . a O . X O . O . O O X X . X O O . | $$ | . . 5 b O X X O . . O X X . X . X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

I connected, and he tried to live, and faced with :b5:

, my eyes focused on a and b. Instead of caving in and playing a (my "basic instinct" is: panic), I suddenly and shockingly recognized that if I blocked at b, my opponent would get stuck with a dead L group. While many of you wouldn't consider this something to write home about, for me it was a thrilling event. A rare concrete indication that I've learned something, and can actually apply it. I played b, he played a and got stuck with the L group, which went on to die as it should, and I won handily.

Here's the SGF, if you're interested.

SpongeBob · Post by **SpongeBob** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:39 am

daal wrote:Here is a minor milestone in my go career. ...
While many of you wouldn't consider this something to write home about ...

On the contrary, I think this is something to write about.
Congrats!

(I also enjoy when being able to apply some corner-shape-knowledge in my games. Nice example here.)

Twitchy Go · Post by **Twitchy Go** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:33 am

It's definitely something to write home about. Starting from your diagram I tried to read out how to make it a dead L. It took a while, probably longer if I didn't know what shape to make. So congratulations! :clap:

lildrummerninja · Post by **lildrummerninja** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:16 am

I recognised this instantly. I find it very strange that I could read it out as a problem quite easily, but when faced with similar situations in my own games, I often don't read it out correctly and die. :mad:

Also, congratulations!

shapenaji · Post by **shapenaji** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:49 am

Good reading! Have you looked at this though?

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illluck · Post by **illluck** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:45 pm

@shapenaji: Hehe, my first reaction as well, though fortunately white is fine.

daal · Post by **daal** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:25 am

shapenaji wrote:Good reading! Have you looked at this though?

No, I hadn't ... o.O After the diagram below, I would have had trouble trying to read out all the variations during the game.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . O . . X O O . O O O O O . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X X X . X O X X O O | $$ | . . O . O O O . . . . . . X X . X X O | $$ | . . O X O X X . X . . . . . . . X . X | $$ | . O O O X X . X . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O X O . X O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O X X O X . O . X X X X . . . . . | $$ | . . X X O O X . . , X O O O X , . . . | $$ | . X . . . . X O O O . O . X X . X X . | $$ | . X O . O O X . X O . O X . O O O . . | $$ | O O 2 . . . X . X O . . X . . X . . . | $$ | . X 1 O . . . . X . O . . O . X O O . | $$ | . . . O X . X . X O . . . . O O X X . | $$ | . . X O . X O . O , . . O O X X O O . | $$ | . . 3 O . X O . O . O O X X . X O O . | $$ | . . X O O X X O . . O X X . X . X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

Dusk Eagle · Post by **Dusk Eagle** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:33 pm

L Group

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