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people who use Canadian timing

Post by walleye »

If you know any people around 2k (+/- a few ranks) who play a lot of games with Canadian timing, preferably 10 min/25 moves Canadian or similar with short or absent main time, please let me know their names. I'd like to do some statistics on the time per move.
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That is a very popular time setting on IGS.
I suggest you look there.
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leichtloeslich wrote:That is a very popular time setting on IGS.
I suggest you look there.


I would go further and say it's the default on IGS.
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Just to forestall any further confusion. I want to get games from KGS, that's why I post in this forum. As for IGS, I don't see how I could download other people's games. Even if there was a way, automating download would be difficult. Not to mention, IGS rounds up the time to the nearest second.
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Post by EdLee »

Hi walleye, I use Canadian, 1 minute initial + 30 minutes / 20 moves.
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EdLee wrote:Hi walleye, I use Canadian, 1 minute initial + 30 minutes / 20 moves.

How long does it take you to finish your games? That seems like it could take all day (5 hours for 200 moves).
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Post by EdLee »

skydr, but some moves only take a few seconds. Usually between 1 and 3 hours, the latter quite rare.
skydyr wrote:5 hours for 200 moves.
Only if both players use an average of 1.5 minutes per move for the entire game, which basically never happens. :) Anyway, all the time info is there for walleye.
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What's the point of the timing if no one bumps into it? Mightn't you just as well play untimed games?
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Post by EdLee »

skydyr, who says nobody bumps into it ?
I still get into time trouble, quite often too, even with a slow time setting like it.
I am slow and sometimes I need the time for a complicated situation.
Some messy situations require longer thinking time, others need little time, so the flexibility in Canadian timing is very nice.

The difference is there is indeed a time limit (for every so many moves, too). There is still an enforced pace, and the game does finish.

The US Open's 90-minute initial time is also very nice and I like it a lot, too.

(walleye, 10 min/25 moves Canadian -- 24 secs/move average -- is too fast for me. :) )
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EdLee wrote:skydyr, who says nobody bumps into it ?
I still get into time trouble, quite often too, even with a slow time setting like it.
I am slow and sometimes I need the time for a complicated situation.
Some messy situations require longer thinking time, others need little time, so the flexibility in Canadian timing is very nice.

The difference is there is indeed a time limit (for every so many moves, too). There is still an enforced pace, and the game does finish.

The US Open's 90-minute initial time is also very nice and I like it a lot, too.

(walleye, 10 min/25 moves Canadian -- 24 secs/move average -- is too fast for me. :) )


I guess 30 minutes at a stretch isn't that that long. I too am fond of the US Open timing, but there's no way it would work for a one-day tournament, unfortunately.
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skydyr wrote:I too am fond of the US Open timing, but there's no way it would work for a one-day tournament, unfortunately.
I feel the same. It's too bad tourneys like the Cotsen and others all use 30 minutes or 45 minutes initial + byoyomi -- all too fast for me.
The US Open is so nice. :mrgreen:
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EdLee wrote:
skydyr wrote:I too am fond of the US Open timing, but there's no way it would work for a one-day tournament, unfortunately.
I feel the same. It's too bad tourneys like the Cotsen and others all use 30 minutes or 45 minutes initial + byoyomi -- all too fast for me.
The US Open is so nice. :mrgreen:


45 I can deal with, but 30 always feels really rushed, like what's the point of playing the game?
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skydyr wrote:
45 I can deal with, but 30 always feels really rushed, like what's the point of playing the game?


What, you mean you don't like playing games with stress? You actually want to enjoy your game? Blasphemy!
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Post by Rowen »

Why the different timings anyway? I select Japanese time setting only because I learned of Go from Hikaru no Go and it was familiar. I don't understand when they imported the game to different countries why they felt the need to change something like that.

Any thoughts? Just curious and this post made me remember it was one of the things I wondered about.
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Post by RBerenguel »

skydyr wrote:
EdLee wrote:Hi walleye, I use Canadian, 1 minute initial + 30 minutes / 20 moves.

How long does it take you to finish your games? That seems like it could take all day (5 hours for 200 moves).


Put it another way: a 1'+3x10" blitz game can theoretically run for almost 40 minutes, but in my short experience with them they only last for 10-12 minutes.
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