KGS homophobia?

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Re: KGS homophobia?

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Joaz Banbeck wrote:
NoSkill wrote:Yea I mean the name in the context is not okay, but once again, you wouldn't think anything bad from the name "lezanime" or even his description.

The google excuse is pathetic, you can google even the names of admins like bigdoug and sweety... find some bad pics in the pictures section somewhere. Terrible excuse to make someone rename...


Sure, if you search deep enough in google results with safe search off you can find porn for any word. But a quick search of 'lezanime' showed only porn or highly suggestive photos ( with the odd exception of a KGS rank chart. ) And even those merely suggestive photos mostly seem to lead to porn sites.

I agree with Big Doug here. There is a difference between a name that returns 1% porn and one that returns 99% porn.


I disagree. You can find many harmless names come up with that stuff. Even some high dans.
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Re: KGS homophobia?

Post by duckweed »

What my Googling of the name got me.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lez

lez 
noun, plural lez·zes. Slang: Disparaging and Offensive .
a lesbian.

giseki wrote:Finally Lesbian Anime and Manga is a fabulous, cute, unique and interesting genre that all should know about. I can't say the same about male homosexual anime and manga because as a genre it contains far too much rape :shock: (a problem that appears in far too much manga/anime imo)


Since this is a LGBT rights thread, I would like to know if any lesbian consider this type of anime offensive?
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Re: KGS homophobia?

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Google results are really unpredictable. I looked at the image results in private browsing mode, I see three lines for the image section without scrolling down. All people mentioned are cartoons unless specified. I count identical photos multiple times (e.g. the 4x line).

Those are:
2x porn
1x non-nude cartoon erotica
1x two girls talking while one bathes. No frontal nudity, slightly more explicit than what would appear on TV (bath scenes between couples are still common, but the non-bather is usually fully dressed).
2x somewhat suggestively posed cartoon characters
4x passionately embracing girls--could be erotic in context, but could also appear on prime time TV.*
3x miscellaneous cartoon characters, nothing suggestive.
1x two girls in bed, as if preparing to sleep. borderline prime time TV*
1x "love is love" icon
1x random dude with a headband

------ (off topic stuff)
1x what looks like a convention, street fair or protest
1x some official looking real life dudes walking around.
1x some real life dudes dancing. Music video, maybe?
1x real life dude sitting on a box.
1x kgs rank graph

* Couples in bed on TV are almost always wearing full pajamas, showing 1/1000th of the skin they would while walking around during the day on the exact same TV shows. But these two girls are only showing their arms and legs below the knees. So it breaks one of the taboos/conventions of TV, but is arguably less provocative than what those TV shows do show.

...I did not expect this post to take this long.
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Re: KGS homophobia?

Post by Ellyster »

Giseki wrote:
Ellyster wrote:
As the user should know "lezanime" is more used in reference to "Yuri" (lesbian anime pornography) than "Shojou Ai" (lesbian romance anime, sometimes with soft eroticism), the intention of the user could be otherwise (no doubt about that), but the appearance for most of the users that see this nickname would be just... something with sexual connotations.


Again... not correct. I've never actually heard anybody using the term lezanime before but as for yuri and shoujo ai...

Quick quote from wikipedia "Maria-sama ga Miteru is considered representative of yuri novels." That should clear up any thoughts that Yuri=lesbian anime pornography.

In fact Yuri is a broad genre of which shoujo ai(girl love) is a small but popular part. However I can see that perhaps lezanime can be seen as "something with sexual connotations" so i have dropped my initial objections.



Just a note...

Outside of Japan: Yuri == Lesbian porn (with explicit sex) and Shojou-ai == Lesbian romance (without sex), in side of Japan, it used to be different... as you say Yuri == Lesbian romance/porn (both) and Shojou-ai == lolicon...

But, as a person who lives and studies in Japan (and before of that worked in manga-anime-culture events for several years) I can tell you that the usage of the word is changing in Japan to adapt the regular western usage... now (since quite yers ago), probably because the usage of internet, publishers use "Girls' Love" (ガールズラブ) as the general term, and yuri is getting more and more slang, and for the average Japanese guy it's related only with porn.

As you can see... "Girls' Love" (ガールズラブ) and "shojou-ai" has the same meaning (girl + love), but publishers needed to put it in English in their magazines as the Japanese word was related with "Lolita complex" in Japan.



Don't trust too much the wikipedia in English, cause the use of this kind of Japanese words it is always really really old, as the dictionaries tends to change very slowly (but the Japanese language doesn't).
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