Topazg vs. Yithril

hyperpape · Post by **hyperpape** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:07 am

yithril · Post by **yithril** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:55 am

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emeraldemon · Post by **emeraldemon** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:40 am

@topazg

Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:58 pm

Was this last move the best play for white? I keep going back and forth about it myself. I guess it makes black's shape a bit heavy, but is it the right way to play?

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topazg · Post by **topazg** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:56 am

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Do you worry that white can build up territory on the left while pressuring your group?

Not particularly. I mean, I expect White will, but I couldn't see any other way for White to increase points here. My hope (and the reason for the center facing contact play), as that as long as I keep access to the center, White's ability to do it is limited. White can either build his moyo and allow me to secure the group with some central influence:

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I'll then have a look at the "a" points if I think White's going to get too much, or one of the "b" points if I think Black's ok.

I'm slightly more worried about White playing the hane (at :b57:

above) first, and then trying to play to kill - I may simply ignore it if so and run out across the front of White's moyo instead, which seems to be reasonably close to equal.

To answer the initial question, I don't think I've played any differently according to yithril's rank yet

yithril · Post by **yithril** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:28 am

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topazg · Post by **topazg** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:19 pm

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Loons · Post by **Loons** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:23 pm

yithril · Post by **yithril** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:19 pm

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Alright, my group is settled, finally! The reason I played the cap was to force him to play around 7. He's essentially playing his stones on dame points while I solidify my bottom group and increase my center potential. Here, let me explain my thinking.

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If we compare the potential for territory around a and b, clearly b is the larger area for yours truly. Even if Black controls A, the area at c is invade-able, so Black getting control of a doesn't really affect that. Therefore, the area around a is dame while the area around b is not. When we cap out opponent, it's like traffic control. Steer them towards the parts of the board that aren't worth much.

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Biggest points on the board right now.

topazg · Post by **topazg** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:43 pm

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Also sente I think..

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Looks very painful for White... if he tries to extend upwards it doesn't make much odds either, so I think has to connect in one way or another, and if so I'm probably going to risk playing in the top right:

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I can still aim at "a", although sadly "b" becomes a lot less interesting. Before I commit to this, I'm going to do some counting.

yithril · Post by **yithril** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:02 pm

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EdLee · Post by **EdLee** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:58 pm

topazg · Post by **topazg** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:04 pm

@obs:

I'm going to think about this. Before, I'd have played in the top right without hesitation, but I'm also aware that I promised myself I'd play honestly this game, and I have a great skill at dying from leaving groups that are too weak. I also teach "if you have large unsettled dragons, settling them is almost always the first priority". So, I should probably take "a" even though I want to take "b" because it just feels sente...

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The thing is, I really must play something like "a", making a semi-connection like this is so huge, especially as his protection stops any push-and-cut aji. It also means the last few moves have the potential not to be dame, and works with the high placement of the stone on the right side. I just really don't want him to play something like "c".

Well, I'm going to sleep on this, and that's mostly because I don't want excitement to carry me away into throwing away the game on a whim. I think Black's doing ok right now, so I don't really want to spoil that. Lots of big moves on the right, but I think this is urgent before big just because of the unsettled nature of the groups involved (mine at the bottom, and his in the top right).

topazg · Post by **topazg** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:29 am

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Loons · Post by **Loons** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:37 am

J13 really isn't even big? Also; O6 shape and not N5?

(Adding more disjointed thoughts to my post)
I thought a little bit about this move:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm61 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . O X O . X . . . . . . . O X X O . . | $$ | . . O X X . . . . , . X . X . X O . . | $$ | . . O O O X X X . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . 6 . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . 4 5 . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . 2 3 O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O X X . X X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O O . X O O O O . O . X , . . . | $$ | . . O X X . X X O . . . . O . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm61 Prisoners: $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . O X O . X . . . . . . . O X X O . . | $$ | . . O X X . . . . , . X . X . X O . . | $$ | . . O O O X X X . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . O O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . 1 O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . 2 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . O X X . X X X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O O . X O O O O . O . X , . . . | $$ | . . O X X . X X O . . . . O . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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