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If he had played
first, would he ever consider to exchange
for
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I considered more moves on this board that I usually do.
These are the moves that came into my head:
The other reason that I would play it is because I wouldn't want white to get the same move in sente after I didn't take it and if I couldn't find any other moves that would prevent white from doing so, I would still play it sad that he could so easily fix the aji(And proving that my invasion move was a bad move.)
If white plays there right now, I really wouldn't want to tenuki as my group doesn't have the best shape and the atari would be pretty painful.
c has the benefit of allowing me to make a tiger mouth if now white attempts to take that point, so it doesn't make so much sense for white to do so and as I get stronger, he'll have to go back to immobilize my stone.
If I can make this group strong, The attack on his bottom left group will be easier and more severe.
I considered d because it threatens the white cutting stones in the center more and is faster, but I like nothing else about it and I feel that it just encourages white to strengthen himself and he'll be able to counter attack after he does so.
e and f are less moves that I considered at this point and moves that look good after I'm a bit stronger in the area. As it stands, I would like to keep his cutting stones weak and so I can launch a double attack against two weak groups. Even if he kills my stone, that seems like the best that I can hope for.
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I considered more moves on this board that I usually do.
These are the moves that came into my head:
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$$ | . . O O X . c d . . . . . . . . O . . |
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$$ | . . X . . g . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
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$$ | . . O O X . c d . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O b . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X . . g . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
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$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . X O X X O . a . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . c d . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O b . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X . . g . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
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The other reason that I would play it is because I wouldn't want white to get the same move in sente after I didn't take it and if I couldn't find any other moves that would prevent white from doing so, I would still play it sad that he could so easily fix the aji(And proving that my invasion move was a bad move.)
If white plays there right now, I really wouldn't want to tenuki as my group doesn't have the best shape and the atari would be pretty painful.
c has the benefit of allowing me to make a tiger mouth if now white attempts to take that point, so it doesn't make so much sense for white to do so and as I get stronger, he'll have to go back to immobilize my stone.
$$Bcm61
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$$ | . . O O X . 5 . . . . . . . . . O . . |
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$$ | . . O O X . 5 . . . . . . . . . O . . |
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$$ | 6 8 X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | 5 2 4 . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X . |
$$ | 7 1 O O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . 3 X O . . O . . , X . . X . O O O . |
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$$ | . . X O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O X X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . X . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | 6 8 X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . |
$$ | 5 2 4 . . . . . . . . . O . O O X X . |
$$ | 7 1 O O . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . 3 X O . . O . . , X . . X . O O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
If I can make this group strong, The attack on his bottom left group will be easier and more severe.
I considered d because it threatens the white cutting stones in the center more and is faster, but I like nothing else about it and I feel that it just encourages white to strengthen himself and he'll be able to counter attack after he does so.
e and f are less moves that I considered at this point and moves that look good after I'm a bit stronger in the area. As it stands, I would like to keep his cutting stones weak and so I can launch a double attack against two weak groups. Even if he kills my stone, that seems like the best that I can hope for.